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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:47:08
Subject: 2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Storming Storm Guardian
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Alaitoc Eldar 2000 Pts - Eldar Army
1 Farseer (HQ) @ 115 Pts(rolls for runes of fate)
Runes of Witnessing(can be usefull in critical moment)
1 Autarch (HQ) @ 85 Pts (you know why)
Power Weapon
5 Pathfinders (Troops) @ 60 Pts
5 Pathfinders (Troops) @ 60 Pts
5 Pathfinders (Troops) @ 60 Pts
5 Pathfinders (Troops) @ 60 Pts
9 Fire Dragons (Elites) @ 198 Pts (in serpent with Autarch)
1 Fire Dragon Exarch @ 32 Pts
Dragon Breath Flamer (one of the best weapons against TH/SS terminators)
1 Wave Serpent @ [145] Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Twin-linked Scatter Laser; Holofields
9 Dire avengers (Troops) @ 117 Pts (in serpent with Farseer)
1 Dire avenger Exarch (Troops) @ 43 Pts
Power weapon and shimmershield(veeery nice upgraide against Helldrakes)
1 Wave Serpent @ [145] Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Twin-linked Scatter Laser; Holofields
5 Swooping Hawks (Fast Attack) @ 80 Pts (wanted 6, but not enought points)
2 Dark Reapers (Heavy Support) @ 60 Pts (starting in falcon)
1 Exarch @ [70] Pts
Tempest Launcher; Fast Shot
1 Wraithlord (Heavy Support) @ 140 Pts
Ghostglaive; Flamer (x2); Shuriken Cannon(not enought points for BL:( )
1 Falcon (Heavy Support) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Scatter Laser; Holofields; Spirit Stones(important upgrade for guntank)
1 Crimson Hunter Exarch @ 180 Pts
1 Crimson Hunter Exarch @ 180 Pts (for AA, because in my local meta opponents usually have 2-4 flyers)
Total Army Cost: 2000
What you think, guys? Can it be somehow competitive?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 17:00:58
Subject: 2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Sorry but this is the exact opposite of competitive. Basically none of your choices are competitive and you've no central idea behind the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 17:10:13
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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Also you can't take Pathfinders without Illic Nightspear now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 00:05:27
Subject: 2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Defending Guardian Defender
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Only one Crimson Hunter per detachment can be upgraded to Exarch as well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 01:48:18
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Hacking Noctifer
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I think maybe try again and repost your list, currently as others have pointed out, it's full of holes/flaws
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 03:10:09
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Fast Shot doesn't effect template weapons as well. You can only fast shot the eml or the reaper launcher.
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Luggnath Army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 14:34:19
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Storming Storm Guardian
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>Only one Crimson Hunter per detachment can be upgraded to Exarch as well
2000 points - you can double FOC
>Fast Shot doesn't effect template weapons as well. You can only fast shot the eml or the reaper launcher.
Tempest launcher is not template weapon, it is blast weapon.
Alaitoc Eldar 2000 Pts - Eldar Army
1 Farseer (HQ) @ 115 Pts(rolls for runes of fate)
Runes of Witnessing(can be usefull in critical moment)
1 Autarch (HQ) @ 85 Pts (you know why)
Power Weapon
5 Rangers (Troops) @ 60 Pts
5 Rangers (Troops) @ 60 Pts
5 Rangers (Troops) @ 60 Pts
9 Fire Dragons (Elites) @ 198 Pts (in serpent with Autarch)
1 Fire Dragon Exarch @ 32 Pts
Dragon Breath Flamer (one of the best weapons against TH/SS terminators)
1 Wave Serpent @ [145] Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Twin-linked Scatter Laser; Holofields
9 Dire avengers (Troops) @ 117 Pts (in serpent with Farseer)
1 Dire avenger Exarch (Troops) @ 43 Pts
Power weapon and shimmershield(veeery nice upgraide against Helldrakes)
1 Wave Serpent @ [145] Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Twin-linked Scatter Laser; Holofields
5 Swooping Hawks (Fast Attack) @ 80 Pts
4 Dark Reapers (Heavy Support) @ 120 Pts (starting in falcon)
1 Exarch @ [70] Pts
Tempest Launcher; Fast Shot
1 Wraithlord (Heavy Support) @ 140 Pts
Ghostglaive; Flamer (x2); Shuriken Cannon
1 Falcon (Heavy Support) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Cannon; Scatter Laser; Holofields; Spirit Stones(important upgrade for guntank)
1 Crimson Hunter Exarch @ 180 Pts
1 Crimson Hunter Exarch @ 180 Pts (for AA, because in my local meta opponents usually have 2-4 flyers)
Total Army Cost: 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 00:52:43
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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it uses template....blast plates are a template.....otherwise they wouldn't have added the little blurb under fast shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 01:41:46
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Raging Ravener
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A template weapon would be any weapon that has the "Template" keyword in it's Type catagory.
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pts tyranids
???? pts Imperial Guard
750 points Grey Knight Inquisitors
2500 FleshTearers
2500 pts Space Wolfs
1500 pts Eldar
Trades: Mark kelly, godswildcard, Uriels_Flame, Myrthan, Harakiri, jason2250, timetowaste85, Gav99, Alkaid
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 07:04:20
Subject: 2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Templates are refering to flamers if I am not mistaken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 07:18:45
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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something for the FAQ then since many would argue (your enemies) that the blast template the weapon shoots, would count as a template weapon. If they meant only flamer templates, then why did they not say "Does not effect Flamer Template Weapons." Though I do see your points, just think GW meant for fast shot not to work on any weapon that shoots a template instead of just reffering to the Dragons Breath Flamer (the only "Template" weapon that any Exarch has access too).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 07:18:58
Subject: 2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
Finland
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Condas wrote:Templates are refering to flamers if I am not mistaken.
This.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 07:46:30
Subject: Re:2000 Eldar Competitve list
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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GTKA666 wrote:something for the FAQ then since many would argue (your enemies) that the blast template the weapon shoots, would count as a template weapon. If they meant only flamer templates, then why did they not say "Does not effect Flamer Template Weapons." Though I do see your points, just think GW meant for fast shot not to work on any weapon that shoots a template instead of just reffering to the Dragons Breath Flamer (the only "Template" weapon that any Exarch has access too).
Blast and Large blast 'templates' are always referenced in the rules as markers, not templates (see page 6 of the BRB). But yeah, even GW gets this wrong on more than one occasion, for example the Mawloc entry in the Tyranid codex, which they errata'd:
Page 51 – Mawloc, Terror from the Deep.
This rule refers to using a large blast template. The word “template” should be changed to “marker” throughout the paragraph.
So Template weapons are most definitely only the ones with 'Template' in their range.
Also check for example the Swarms, Twin-linked, Hard-to-Hit USRs, which specifically makes a difference between Blast, Large Blast and Template weapons.
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