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Hi all,

I am just starting out playing Orks and been (unsuccessfully) learning to play a friend with 1000 pt Nids
Flyrant T/L Devs, Zoan, 2xTervigons, 2x10xTermigants, Gargoyles and Doom in pod

I have been using
KFF Big Mek in trukk with 5 Nobs, 2 PK, Painboy
Biker P/Klaw etc Boss
2x12 Shootas, Nob BP in trukk
2x2 Kannon, Runtherd, 2 ammo runts, 4 grots
Dakkajet + T/L shoota

I have finding Doom in particular landing turn 2 in my back field really hard to shift with his 3++ save as he always seems to gain 3 or 4 wounds that first turn usually from a Kannons unit. The Kannons are only partially effective against Doom or the Tervigons (usually at least one has Iron arm or Endurance and often make 4-5 extra units of gants between them) and the Flyrant is a real nuisance.

Last game I tried putting the Nob/Mek trukk mid way between the Kannons, shooting Kannons at Doom then trying to assault Doom with the Nobs. I also ran the boys in trukks up to thin the gants / capture objectives and tried to assault a tervi with the biker boss.

The KFF/Runtherds did a fair job minimising Dooms increasing strength. Nobs so so vs Doom (mistakenly disembarked within 6" and lost 2 before assault. Wiffed PK attacks).The trukks tend to explode killing several boys then get thinned out / tarpitted before I can get to the other objectives, gants screen the tervi and tarpited the boss last game. Tervis are really hard to get off objectives. The jet killed the Zoan last game but typically just takes out the cheap gants so not sure is really being effective.

Can anyone give me advice on how my tactics sound, alternate tactics, or whether my army make-up would be better changed to compete please.

Firstly, use that Dakkajet to force grounding tests on the Flyrant to at least make it unable to shoot at your trukks from a safe distance. Secondly, Doom in a pod has two critical weaknesses, interceptor and S8+. Interceptor because it can hammer him before he hulks out, S8 because unless he rolls Iron Arm it will double him out and splat him.

Gargoyles can be dealt with by shooting them to bits, and they aren't exactly stellar in assault for their cost, especially if you get the charge. The termagants are little more than a tax for the Tervigons, but if you allow the Tervigons to spawn without hassle you may find yourself swamped in cheap scoring bodies that don't know fear.

Also, don't trust your trukks to survive very long, not when even termagants can glance them to death. Perhaps a battlewagon or footslogging would be better?

Mega Armored Nobs in Battlewagon. Death to Tervigons in spades.

With orks I'd say more boys. Have you tried lootas ?

Thanks for the replies. I haven't tried Lootas yet, but was also wondering about more boys and/or meganobs.

It seems consensus is my current list is not the best approach vs a Nid army and needs to be changed. Is that right, or if I keep going can my current list / approach be effective once I learn to to play it ?

Any comment on the brief tactics I posted, or tactic tips that work vs Nids ?

Burnas - Warbikers/biker nobz i wouldnt recomend trukk boyz but horde boyz instead due the amount of dakka they can put out with shootas.

I know your pain in dealing with the doom. I don't know if orks have anything in the way of interceptor, but I'd agree that trying to cram some S8 into your list is the right way to go. In all my days I have never killed the doom by wounds, always by instant death.

Am I missing something? Why does doom have 3++ save?

The main problem is probably just half your army being nobz. While a totally fun and awesome unit, they are just way too expensive at 1000 points.

Doom just has a 3++ save standard, it has nothing else though.

S8 interceptor is impossible to get for orks unless we ally in some Tau or something, but even then its iffy because with the exception of Railsides all the S8 is a pi plate and you might not be able to shoot since he landed so close to your stuff (Yes railheads too but who the hell allies in a railhead). Before he moved a local nids player did that on purpose when i had a riptide allied in - he sacced making an additional unit roll leaderships so i couldnt pi plate him.

However, personally i havent had much bad luck with it. Mass boyz are LD10, which is still better than average on a 3D6 test. I usually suffer 3 wounds from 3-4 units IF that, which is nothing too horrible. The problem is if i couldnt punch its face off before my opponent could use all those wounds for an S10 pi plate lol.

MANz or Bikerboyz with a couple klaws are your best bet to pasting it. Problem is they dont have LD10 and if hes smart he'll land near them (Vehicles dont protect you from this btw so having manz camping in a trukk wont save them).
Unfortunately at 1000 you probably cant afford some MANz or bikernobz. Best bet would be to blob up and wait for it to drop and zerg the feth out of it.

 Vineheart01 wrote:

S8 interceptor is impossible to get for orks unless we ally in some Tau or something,

ADL with an Icarus lascannon

Waaaaghmaster wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:

S8 interceptor is impossible to get for orks unless we ally in some Tau or something,

ADL with an Icarus lascannon

With BS 2 I wouldn't rely on this too much. Maybe a grot?

Honestly I would suggest seeing if your nid buddy is willing to bring less of a WAAC list against you, considering you are just starting out with orks. Still semicompetitive, but not stuffing every single thing that kicks puppies across the galaxy into a 1000pt list. Or are you in one of those groups where the only form of 'fun' is stomping the opponent mercilessly into the dust so that he has little chance of fighting back?

 FinkleLord wrote:

Waaaaghmaster wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:

S8 interceptor is impossible to get for orks unless we ally in some Tau or something,

ADL with an Icarus lascannon

With BS 2 I wouldn't rely on this too much. Maybe a grot?

bs3 from the cannon crew and use ammo runts for reroll^^