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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





My friend has the models from the Dark Angels from the Dark Vengeance box.

He is new and has a tight budget. He also likes bikes. Unfortunately I have been lending him my termi and taught him how to use termi instead, because I have no CSM bikers. However, he still prefers the mobility of biker even though I blast the only 3 he has to death. Btw, he likes the color white and I had suggested the Deathwing terminators but still wants bikes.

I do not understand the DA to well and would like help writing a list for him. I need to know how to an effective biker list utilizing all the best synergies among upgrades and unit ratios.

For example is it better to take Azreal to have some deathwing terminators as troops and have bikers as troops? Or is it better to go with Sammael on his sableclaw and just take bikers? Should he always take the land speeder escort with the specified amount of bikers? What upgrades would be the most flexible versus the most specialized? Can banners be taken on bikes?

In addition to the models included in the DV boxset, I gave him a rhino.

The models I could lend him are

2 predators with only CSM options (magnetized for turret ac or lc, side lc or hb)
1 vindicator with dozer blade

1 dreadnaught with 2 cc arms

10 marines with a few flamers, plasma guns, meltaguns

3 Heavybolter havocs
3 Missle launcher havocs
6 Lascannon havocs

10 terminators with csm options

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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine





Sharjah

If your friend is on a budget, a Ravenwing army is a very viable choice. Buying off eBay, the three Bikers from the DV box go for around $18. With a little conversion work and some extra meltaguns, that can be a 100 point unit. Other stuff gets more expensive, but it's still probably the cheapest viable non-Terminator army out there dollar-wise.

A standard all-Ravenwing army looks something like this:

HQ: Sammael on Corvex 200
HQ: Librarian on Bike, Mastery Level 2, Power Field Generator 150 (Take Telepathy powers, hope for Invisibility)
HQ: Ravenwing Command Squad, 2 extra Black Knights, Apothecary, Standard of Devastation, 1 Grenade Launcher 295
HQ: Ravenwing Command Squad, 2 extra Black Knights, Apothecary, Ravenwing Banner, 1 Grenade Launcher 245
TR: 6 Ravenwing Bikers, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike with Multimelta 236
TR: 6 Ravenwing Bikers, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike with Multimelta 236
TR: 6 Ravenwing Bikers, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike with Multimelta 236
TR: 6 Ravenwing Bikers, 2 Flamers 171
FA: Ravenwing Darkshroud 80

Total: 1849

If your local meta doesn't require a lot of Melta, consider ditching the Attack Bikes for more regular Bikes to maximize the shots from the Standard.

I'm in the process of starting a Ravenwing army too, so I'm not an authority, but this seems to be what others are doing, more-or-less. If fliers are a concern, the only decent options are taking Guard allies for Vendettas plus a blob behind an Aegis with a Quad Gun, in which case Azrael is probably a better HQ than Sammael, or taking Mortis Contemptor Dreadnoughts from Forge World.

As for your other questions, Sammael is probably better on the Jetbike, you want to keep the upgrades minimal to maximize the number of Bikers, and yes, Bikes can take Banners. Unless you're taking allies, it seems best to go all-out Bikes, to maximize your speed and use of both Banners.

Finally, I will mention that this army is also pretty easy to paint.

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