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This may be a simple question, but I am started an actual bretonnian army and read the rules in the codex and BRB within two days.

If you purchase a banner for a unit and a standard bearer, is the standard bearer actually wielding the banner (as an upgrade to the bonus he already provides the unit) or must you model another figure with the purchased banner on top of the standard bearer?

A plain point out to the pages where the information if found would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

It is clearer in newer army books - most now state that the standard bearer may take a magical banner, not the unit (as per Bretonnia).

Indeed, you do not need to model another and ifthe standard bearer dies then you lose the banner.

Niteware wrote:
Indeed, you do not need to model another and ifthe standard bearer dies then you lose the banner.

If a rank-and-file standard bearer dies (NOT the Battle Standard Bearer), the banners gets picked up by another model in the unit, you thus remove one model from the back rank.

Not 100% sure what's being asked here although I think if I said that you upgrade one model to a standard bearer that would help.

And to add onto what Sigvatr said, the musician and standard bearer can't be killed until there are no rank and file models left. The Champion, however, can be.

I read the question as being about the wording in the Brettonian army book - there it states that the unit can upgrade a model to a standard bearer and that the unit may take a (magical) banner.

It does not, however, state that the unit's standard bearer is the one that has to carry said banner.

My point was that when a Standard bearer is acrually dead (which only occurs if all other rnf are dead or if the unit breaks), then you lose the banner. In any other circumstance, while the model may die, the standard bearer role does not.

Sure, but the question seems to be does the standard bearer have to carry the magical standard - not who carries it after taking casualties.

editing to add:
It is obviously implied, but reading the book referenced in the question makes the question seem entirely legitimate.

My apologies if the question was unclear, but yes the book did not explain whether or not the Standard Bearer became the magic banner bearer if I chose to purchase one or if I had to model a second figure to represent the magical banner. Had that been the case, it would have opened another can of worms...

Luckily this is not an issue since the standard bearer simply carries the magical banner.

Thank you all for the response.