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I have only seen these played once and there seemed to be some confusion about many of the rules. I have done some reading and want to confirm what I think and ask a question or two?

1. The are chariots and they are fast vehicles which means they can move 12 inches in movement phase.

2. They are fast vehicles so they can Flat Out 12 inches + 3 for mark of slaanesh meaning the can move 15 inches in the shooting phase.

3. If they charge something its the standard 2d6 charge even if going through difficult terrain (vehicle movement rules).

4. Even though they are not slowed the exalted allures will go last in close combat if charging into difficult.

5. The hammer of wrath hits always go first regardless of initiative penalties.

6. The hammer of wrath hits can technically cause combat to end before i10 by killing all the closest models.

7. They are allowed to pursue even though they don't count as locked in close combat (you still perform combat resolution)?

8. A crew stunned result during overwatch fire could prevent the charge if the other chariots could not maintain 4" coherency?

9. You may abandon an immobilized chariot on the charge.

10. You do get your 5+ daemon save against a dangerous terrain failure?

That's all I have for now. Thanks in advance.

yes on all but im unsure about 8 and 9 since that has never come up for me and i dont have the BRB

1) All vehicles* can move 12 in the movement phase.

*Except Heavy vehicles.

6) it depends on if the next pile in moves can bring models into base contact with the chariot.

5. & 6. HoW is AT Initiative 10. Not before. It is unlikely that HoW casualties would end combat due to subsequent pile moves.

4plus wrote:
5. The hammer of wrath hits always go first regardless of initiative penalties.

Slight clarification - HOW hits at I10, not first. There are a few other things that land at I10 as well.

7. They are allowed to pursue even though they don't count as locked in close combat (you still perform combat resolution)?

They can definitely perform Sweeping Advance. However - and I'm not sure on this - I believe they CAN otherwise get stuck in combat, by virtue of the Herald/Alluress being the one stuck in base contact.

8. A crew stunned result during overwatch fire could prevent the charge if the other chariots could not maintain 4" coherency?

This possibly could - again, I'm not sure, but I think the assault rules mean you must move each model into the combat in turn, and it's only once the move is complete and you're in assault that you can ignore coherency (until combat is over). Worth double-checking.

9. You may abandon an immobilized chariot on the charge.

Yes, as per vehicle squadron rules.

Everything else is a "yes", as SlyasR has already confirmed.

Dra'al Nacht wrote:
It is unlikely that HoW casualties would end combat due to subsequent pile moves.

A exalted seeker cavalcade can conceivable wipe a squad out entirely on HoW, ending the combat (16d6 rending attacks anyone?). If there is stuff still alive, pile-ins happen like people said.


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 Super Ready wrote:

7. They are allowed to pursue even though they don't count as locked in close combat (you still perform combat resolution)?

They can definitely perform Sweeping Advance. However - and I'm not sure on this - I believe they CAN otherwise get stuck in combat, by virtue of the Herald/Alluress being the one stuck in base contact.

BRB pg. 82 Last line of the paragraph titled "Fighting from a chariot."

Note that, as a vehicle, the chariot (and it's rider, whilst embarked) cannot be locked in combat.

If the chariot no longer wants to be in the combat, they can simply drive away.

Pg 27 has a section titled "disallowed sweeping advances" There are two situations that can deny you a sweeping advance. First, if you are still locked in combat. Chariots can not be locked in combat, and neither can their riders, so this does not effect them. The second is by having a special rule that states you can not make sweeping advances. An example of this is the slow and purposeful USR on page 42. Chariots possess no rule stating they can not make sweeping advances. As long as the chariot's rider does not, it is also not restricted by this situation.

So yes, unless otherwise stated in the unit's rules a chariot and it's rider may make sweeping advances.

Chariots are Vehicles, so they cannot Sweeping Advance (or Consolidate) as per page 76. Their Riders may be a different story.

Chrysis wrote:
Chariots are Vehicles, so they cannot Sweeping Advance (or Consolidate) as per page 76. Their Riders may be a different story.

Ah you are right I missed that page.

Chrysis wrote:
Chariots are Vehicles, so they cannot Sweeping Advance (or Consolidate) as per page 76. Their Riders may be a different story.

I dont have my book on me (at work...) but walkers are technically vehicles and they can sweeping advance. I am sure it says vehicles other than walkers though right?

pg84 walkers they can sweep if not immobile or stunned. Chariots can not sweep.

So they can not sweep and can not be locked. So they can charge everyturn? Awesome.

only if they can move away, they aren't tanks so it is possible to stop them from moving.