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Long story short, I was hired for a new job, pending a background check. The district manager for the company left me a voicemail on 6/10 telling me that everything cleared and I would be starting next week. She said that she would call back later that day or the next to give me the exact information. She left no call back number and called my voicemail directly so I didn't have her number in my missed calls. I have followed up with the company multiple times only to get the run around every time. They say "Oh I talked to the district manager and she said she was going to call you, I'll call her and call you right back". No call. They won't even just give me her work number, despite the fact that she has contacted me before.

I know this isn't a case of me not getting the job because they told me I was hired and that I passed the background check. To be honest, I am more than a little offended considering the fact that they requested I put my two weeks in at my other job. Now I have no job and the bills still need to be paid.

Luckily I got a call about another job that I had really wanted but lost hope for after never hearing back. The interview isn't until 6/24 though. I think I have an honest chance as long as I don't screw up the interview.

I just can't believe that an employer would do this. This was actually a management position- full time with benefits. How can you ask someone to quit their job and then not even get around to making a 2 minute phone call letting them know the details of their start date? Has this happened to any of you before?

Yes. It's gakky but it happens.

That is why it is best to insist on a written offer.


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But anyway good luck for your next interview.

I don't think you would want to work for the kind of company that feths around with recruitment like that.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

I don't think you would want to work for the kind of company that feths around with recruitment like that.

100 times this, write it off as a narrow miss with a gakker farm.

 Icarusthepilot wrote:
Long story short, I was hired for a new job, pending a background check. The district manager for the company left me a voicemail on 6/10 telling me that everything cleared and I would be starting next week. She said that she would call back later that day or the next to give me the exact information. She left no call back number and called my voicemail directly so I didn't have her number in my missed calls. I have followed up with the company multiple times only to get the run around every time. They say "Oh I talked to the district manager and she said she was going to call you, I'll call her and call you right back". No call. They won't even just give me her work number, despite the fact that she has contacted me before.

I know this isn't a case of me not getting the job because they told me I was hired and that I passed the background check. To be honest, I am more than a little offended considering the fact that they requested I put my two weeks in at my other job. Now I have no job and the bills still need to be paid.

When and where are you supposed to start? Can you just go to the office and say hi? Have you tried?

 Icarusthepilot wrote:
I just can't believe that an employer would do this. This was actually a management position- full time with benefits. How can you ask someone to quit their job and then not even get around to making a 2 minute phone call letting them know the details of their start date? Has this happened to any of you before?

IME HR and recruiting people are among the least-competent and least motivated to pay attention and respond in a timely manner members of any corporate organization. They are accustomed to job seekers coming to them in supplication, to weeding out tons of resumes from idiots and illiterates, and to bestowing favor and employment upon lucky and happy recipients like a benevolent demigod.

That is to say, they are godawful about responding to anyone in a timely manner and the nature of their position doesn't incentivize them to learn basic business etiquette or communications skills, Just because they don't respond in a timely manner doesn't necessarily mean they aren't going to, eventually.

However, if you were given an actual start date and that date has passed, that's not a good sign. Do you have no clue where you would actually be working? Again, can you not just go in and talk to people in person?

 Mannahnin wrote:

IME HR and recruiting people are among the least-competent and least motivated to pay attention and respond in a timely manner members of any corporate organization. They are accustomed to job seekers coming to them in supplication, to weeding out tons of resumes from idiots and illiterates, and to bestowing favor and employment upon lucky and happy recipients like a benevolent demigod.

That is to say, they are godawful about responding to anyone in a timely manner and the nature of their position doesn't incentivize them to learn basic business etiquette or communications skills, Just because they don't respond in a timely manner doesn't necessarily mean they aren't going to, eventually.

Unfortunately that also has been my experience, in the organizations I have worked at. My current company, in a wise choice, actually divorces the recruiting from the HR so it's a little better here than at other places I have been but ultimately HR is generally a job with no solid metrics on performance so, well, what you'd naturally expect to happen is what usually happens.

My job does send an offer letter that has to be signed before anyone is officially hired, even if it's just a rotation to a different slot.

I think you better show up in person, polite and well dressed. Also don't stop looking for a new job even if you wind up starting at this place because if it's like this now, it's going to be like this when you work there, too. Easy for me to say with my steady employment but regardless that is my advice.

 Mannahnin wrote:

IME HR and recruiting people are among the least-competent and least motivated to pay attention and respond in a timely manner members of any corporate organization. They are accustomed to job seekers coming to them in supplication, to weeding out tons of resumes from idiots and illiterates, and to bestowing favor and employment upon lucky and happy recipients like a benevolent demigod.

That is to say, they are godawful about responding to anyone in a timely manner and the nature of their position doesn't incentivize them to learn basic business etiquette or communications skills, Just because they don't respond in a timely manner doesn't necessarily mean they aren't going to, eventually.

However, if you were given an actual start date and that date has passed, that's not a good sign. Do you have no clue where you would actually be working? Again, can you not just go in and talk to people in person?

Yeah, that's about right. Get it in writing or assume it's not happening. Sadly, that's life.