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Does the Eldar nightwing really have an effective 2+ cover save because of jink+agile+shrouding? To coin Seth Meyers and SNL
Really? Really FW? Really?




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Only while Jinking, which isn't all the time.

Only whilst Evading (BRB pg 81), which grants it Jink (but means it's firing snapshots).

If the Shrouding and Agile are in effect all the time (I don't know the FW rules for it) then it would get the (presumably) 4+ cover save when not Evading? Seems pretty good either way.

{Edit} I didn't mean for that post to sound like an insult at Grendel (who is awesome and often beats me to the right answer in many threads), but it's just a personal bugbear of mine and I don't want the OP confusing it for skimmers (which get Jink saves by moving normally).

 Quanar wrote:
{Edit} I didn't mean for that post to sound like an insult at Grendel (who is awesome and often beats me to the right answer in many threads), but it's just a personal bugbear of mine and I don't want the OP confusing it for skimmers (which get Jink saves by moving normally).

Thats an excellent point, I was assuming the Nightwing could hover, but that isn't the case.

So Quanar is quite right, only when Evading.
(also Agile only effects Jink saves)

It always gets a 5+ thanks to Shrouding, but since it's made of paper any shots usually mean I have to evade anyway.

I see, so no jink unless just moving flat out.
Else it's 4+ for shrouding (which can be all time) and 2+ when flat out. I was thinking it was when moving cruising speed.

Cheers

deevil wrote:
I see, so no jink unless just moving flat out.
Else it's 4+ for shrouding (which can be all time) and 2+ when flat out. I was thinking it was when moving cruising speed.

Cheers

No.

No jink save unless it's Evading. The flyer equivalent of Going to Ground.

5+ All the time because of Shrouding. If it goes Flat out, no change because it doesn't have Jink (unless evading). If it evades, 2+ due to Shrouding and Agile.

Gotcha, I was mixing the two up thank you.