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Howdy everyone!

My LGS is having a 1850 Swiss Tournament. Here is my list. Any improvements or changes the great minds of DD could offer would be great.

1840 of 1850 (-10)

5 Troops: Warriors w/ 1 NightScythe(165 pts)
5 Troops: Warriors w/ 1 NightScythe(165 pts)
5 Troops: Warriors w/ 1 NightScythe(165 pts)
5 Troops: Warriors w/ 1 NightScythe(165 pts)

1 DoomScythe (175)
1 DoomScythe (175)
1 DoomScythe (175)

1 HQ Destroyer Lord (190)
((Warscythe; Sempiternal Weave: Mindshackle Scarabs; Resurrection Orb; Ever-Living; Independent Warlord Character; Preferred Enemy; Reanimation Protocols; Bulky; Deep Strike
5 Wraiths (225)
(Whip Coils)

1 Overlord with Command Barge (240)
(Mind Shackle Scarabs, Warscythe, phase shifter)


% HQ: 23.4
% Elite: 0
% Troops: 35.9
% Fast: 12.2
% Heavy: 28.5
% Fortification: 0

Seems like a full on aircron. If you can keep those two boarded units hidden in the first turn you should be okay. Once T2 hits you will get something out of reserve.

Are you using the dooms for AT? Your list is a little limited in that area. The CCB is meh at anti tank. Most of the time before you can ever get to one to use the sweep attacks you will get shot up or be in melta range.

The 3 Dooms are Anti Tank with the low AP and High Strength. Using the Wraiths and DL as a group should make for some nice CC because of Relentless Preferred foe and Coils.

I would just be concerned your troops are too fragile in such small units. If you land them on an objective they are going to struggle to hold it against most opponents.
Also with only the two units on the board in the first turn you are in danger to very shooty armies. Whilst you can hide if you are not boldish with the wraiths then they will spend a couple of turns lurking to stay out of LoS until you flood the board with flyers, and then they will not get stuck into combat for enough turns to ake a real difference to the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think it'll be quite competitive, but I think you have over cooked the number of flyers.

It'll make an emeny ADL or a Tau player very happy!

I don't rate the doomscythes drop them for annihilation barges. The only reason to take an Overlord is for a court.

Why resorb on the Destroyer Lord when the Wraiths don't have RP?

Phase shifter is too many points on the Overlord. Command Barge is meh.

dooms scythes are fickle. They can be hard to aim and with a "varible" in how long your deathray line will be, just seems they will either do nothing or rock. I'm not a fan of extremes that way. You have a lot of points invested in the dooms. It is for sur a gamble.

resorb on the dlord is because he is your warlord and its worth the points just to give him a better chance of getting back up. Without an invul save a failed MSS can mean it dies. You need that chance to get back up.

I am a fan of the phase shifter in certain lists. I have had a kited out overlord go 3 full game turns in CC with a BT because of phase shifter. To much ID floating around out there not to have an invul save. Esp if your going to be in CC with that unit.

To much ID floating around out there not to have an invul save. Esp if your going to be in CC with that unit.

You see this is where I go the other way. Any AP2 going before you is likely to be causing ID. Therefore the value of that 3++ goes down as you effectively have 1 wound and are probably dead even with it (with Ws4 they will most likely put 3+ wounds on you). This is exactly why I don't rate it for 45points. But YMMV...

I think it is because I have not experienced disapointment with it yet. It has pulled off so many amazing things for me that I might sing it's praises more than I should. I'm sure it will come back and bite me at some point.

I do only use it if I don't plan to play keep away with my Olord unit. Most of the time they are at a distance with veilteks so folks stay away.

RO can use to bring himself back.

I know how resorb works just for something that will have an impact less than once in 6 games I wouldn't pay 30 points.

If not rezy which would you suggest instead?

 Smolo82 wrote:
If not rezy which would you suggest instead?

More wraiths.

You have the ability to LOS any hits that you are worried about onto the wraiths instead of the dlord and the more the merrier when it comes to wraiths

Hopefully you don't face any tau with this list, more and more people are expecting a flying circus from necrons.

Any AP2 going before you is likely to be causing ID.

It is? Against a T5 model? I think we differ on our definition of "likely."

I do agree to drop the Res Orb unless you are going to run the DLord with TPs instead of Wraiths.

It is? Against a T5 model? I think we differ on our definition of "likely."

By likely I mean in most situations. What is the most likely source of AP2 that isn't unwieldy? A model with Smash (i.e. an MC or FMC) who will cause ID in T5. Your definition of likely I don't get as it is clearly not this.