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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 16:40:28
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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I haven't heard much about it, it seems like a very solid AA/fire-support platform for both Guard and Sisters; understandably, IG has the cheap Valkyrie option but for Sisters it seems like a great option without having to use allies. Has anyone used it? Or seen it in action? Any thoughts on it? Automatically Appended Next Post: (It's a really nice-looking model too)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 17:54:02
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Avenger is pretty much what fliers should be AV12 front is tough, but AV10 sides make it pretty much a strafe flier. Guns are pretty strong but lacks a lot of TL for when it jinks. However, it has enough firepower to wipe squads the turn it comes on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 17:57:35
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Avenger is pretty much death incarnate to most TMCs with the option for multiple TL las cannons and the AP3 megabolter it's got. Removing one TMC each turn in a single go is very, very worth it. And if a flyrant is on the board, the thing can mulch the Flyrant too.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 19:13:55
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Honored Helliarch on Hypex
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On the other hand, the Flyrant should have a pretty easy time of chewing up the Avenger.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 19:20:21
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Avenger is pretty decent, It's not a bad flyer, but it's no Vendetta, rather good and balanced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 21:01:15
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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The Avenger is plain awesome. I've heard of people doing a little gun change on the Niphlim and using it as one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 21:16:19
Subject: Re:Avenger Strike Fighter
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Douglas Bader
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The Avenger is awesome. It has the AP 2/3 weapons to hurt marines, the volume of fire (especially with hellfury missiles) to hurt hordes, and even decent firepower against vehicles and other aircraft. And, most importantly, it's a heavy support choice so it doesn't get in the way of your Vultures/Vendettas. Really the only bad thing you can say about it is that it's a bit of a glass cannon with AV 10 side armor and only 2 HP.
And of course for SoB, who would otherwise not have a flyer at all, it's probably an auto-take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 21:21:16
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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And my monstrous creature heavy lists have learned to fear it. Being able to gut a monstrous creature in one turn from a safe distance is pretty priceless.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 22:29:44
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Good to know guys, thanks for the feedback
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 01:55:07
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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I have one for my Sisters of Battle (a few WIP pictures are in my P&M blog) and I've gotten two games in with it so far. I've been running it with bombs and chaff launchers. It is the definitive glass hammer- it shreds whatever you point it towards, but the weak armor on the sides and rear, combined with the fact that it only has two hullpoints, really makes it vulnerable to incoming fire.
In a faceoff against the Black Legion, I Exorcised his anti-air on turn one and two. Turn three, the incoming Avenger singlehandedly shredded a squad of melta-equipped traitor marines, then in the next turn finished them off with a bomb before blasting a hole in the side of a Predator. It was taken down shortly thereafter by a pair of deepstriking Obliterators, who blew its tail off with some Assault Cannon fire (with the help of a Skyfire Nexus).
In a faceoff against the Tau, it came in on turn two (before I was able to deal with his AA). I killed a single Crisis suit (cover), then lost the Avenger immediately thereafter to a cloud of rockets from a pair of Missilesides. Ugh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 12:24:35
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 01:13:04
Subject: Re:Avenger Strike Fighter
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Peregrine wrote:The Avenger is awesome. It has the AP 2/3 weapons to hurt marines, the volume of fire (especially with hellfury missiles) to hurt hordes, and even decent firepower against vehicles and other aircraft. And, most importantly, it's a heavy support choice so it doesn't get in the way of your Vultures/Vendettas. Really the only bad thing you can say about it is that it's a bit of a glass cannon with AV 10 side armor and only 2 HP.
And of course for SoB, who would otherwise not have a flyer at all, it's probably an auto-take.
It is now 3 HP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 01:43:08
Subject: Re:Avenger Strike Fighter
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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NeedleOfInquiry wrote: Peregrine wrote:The Avenger is awesome. It has the AP 2/3 weapons to hurt marines, the volume of fire (especially with hellfury missiles) to hurt hordes, and even decent firepower against vehicles and other aircraft. And, most importantly, it's a heavy support choice so it doesn't get in the way of your Vultures/Vendettas. Really the only bad thing you can say about it is that it's a bit of a glass cannon with AV 10 side armor and only 2 HP.
And of course for SoB, who would otherwise not have a flyer at all, it's probably an auto-take.
It is now 3 HP.
Really? That's awesome. (Where is that written down, I want to get a printout.)
Though, can I ask what the point of buying 2 sets of extra weapons (for a total of four extra weapons) when it can only fire four weapons total and it already has 3?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 01:54:53
Subject: Re:Avenger Strike Fighter
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Douglas Bader
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According to what? The IA12/ DKoK "Imperial Navy air support squadron" entry is a typo (confirmed by FW on facebook IIRC), the HP for the Avenger and Thunderbolt are swapped. Automatically Appended Next Post: Waaaghpower wrote:Though, can I ask what the point of buying 2 sets of extra weapons (for a total of four extra weapons) when it can only fire four weapons total and it already has 3?
There isn't much point, which makes the gun options too expensive for what you get. The best way to do it is to take hellfury missiles or bombs. Bombs are hard to use effectively but you can drop the whole load of them counting as a single weapon, while hellfury missiles give you extra anti-horde shooting against targets like boyz/guardsmen/etc where having to snap fire a single LC shot doesn't really matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 06:42:43
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Avenger is good flyer like Ju-87 Stuka it can make chaos on things on the ground (especially foot marines). But there are some bad sides:
1) 10 side armor and just 2 HP.
2) Weapons a not twin linked.
3) Defensive stubber is like a joke. It can shoot only at BS1 at ground targets and uneffective against flyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 07:07:26
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Confessor Of Sins
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4) Having the option for Hellstrike missiles but it being Ordnance..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 08:50:13
Subject: Avenger Strike Fighter
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I just came to think that Hellstrike missiles are completely useless on flyers, since that means that they can only fire that one missile at full BS and the rest at BS1. The Voss pattern Lightning have horrible rules, but it is such a gorgeus model.
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