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hi Dakkanaught
This list is meant to be competitive but not overly cheesy, (not 3 heldrakes but 2) I think it could be quite good.

the Juggerlord goes with the spawns, they can deal with most teams, actually most everything in this army can deal well with either strong CC or vehicules
I know the demon prince is pretty expensive but I do like him being able to cast a few spells, I suppose I could take out his 2 lvls to give me points to make the CSM nurgle instead and allow one of those teams to have boltgun as well as bolt pistols so as to put less points in one dude but I do like him being a wizard, it also make him have a potential to lower the toughness of stuff he fights to help with his Black Mace.


315 1x Demon Prince / Nurgle / lvl 2 psycker / Power Armour / Wings / Black Mace
170 1x Chaos Lord / Khorne / Juggernaught / Sigil of Corruption / Axe of Blind Fury
220 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb / Rhino Transport
220 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb / Rhino Transport
220 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb / Rhino Transport
150 5x Chaos Spawn
170 1x HellDrake
170 1x HellDrake
125 1x Maulerfiend
120 1x Vindicator
120 1x Vindicator

total 2000pts
8 vehicules
1 deamon prince of mostly nasty doom
1 juggerlord
5 Spawns
30 space marines in a can that can fight quite well

Thoughts? Comments? Insults?

Think about having dirge caster on your rhino to prevent over watch 6"

 Filch wrote:
Think about having dirge caster on your rhino to prevent over watch 6"

This definitely!

Had a unit that would have shredded my lord within 6 inches of an immobilized rhino with DC, and the guy was pretty ticked about that

Off the bat your list started with a sub optimal daemon prince build. The tzeentch dp blows nurgle out of the water


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Also plague marines agree way better than regular csm, mauler fiends age Meh. Thus looks like a for fun list more than a competitive one

The Daemins prince is very expensive, I would consider a differnt build or removing for a more tactical choice like huron. Maybe just keep the lord as your warlord.

Daemonic Possesion on the Vindicator is a good addition, it really helps to able to shoot every turn.

Two Helldrakes is perfect.

Assault marines in a rhino is a little iffy, I tried it a couple of times and it failed unless against a pure assault army.

the Goal of this army is to get right into my opponnents face very fast, the 2 meltagun shots from the rhino only get to double dice it on armour penetration roll if within 6" so they are going to get into the middle of the fighting and once the rhino gets popped, will definitely be wanting to charge cc troops to get the 4 attacks each + bolt pistol shot or to tie up shooting squads, keeping them with boltguns will mean they other lose the option to charge or lose a str4 shot and one attack per dude. sure they also lose range of shot but it shouldnt be an issue in this army style.

whats so special about the tzeeench DP? vs the nurgle one I mean? I feel him getting shrouded would be alot more efficient than re-rolling 1's on failed invulnerable, even if he loses the option to run.
Is it the tzeentch spell list? doesnt seem that much better to me.

dirge caster is interesting tho, should I take out the melta bombs to make room for that?

I know the maulefiend has a bit of a bad rep but I really like the dinobot and positively hate the forgefiends stats, the way I see it is his immobilisation risk is about the same as being open topped (one more chance out of six to losing him if he gets a pen hit.) but if he reaches cc he can rip stuff up very well, and with 3 tough scoring units in a can, 2 vindicator, a DP, 2 heldrakes and a juggerlord with spawn on the board I dont think he will be high priority for the opponent. also as mentionned this is only meant to be semi competitive, I would get another vindicator if I wanted it to be super competitive.

Plague marines are good no doubt but I would need to have a nurgle lord to have them being troops and that would completely change the style of my army so maybe for another list.


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how does this look?

240 1x Demon Prince / Nurgle / Power Armour / Wings / Black Mace
170 1x Chaos Lord / Khorne / Juggernaught / Sigil of Corruption / Axe of Blind Fury
225 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb - Rhino Transport / Dirge Caster
225 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb - Rhino Transport / Dirge Caster
282 10x Chaos Space Marines / Nurgle / Boltgun / Pistols and hand Weapon / 2x Plasma gun / Meltabomb - Rhino Transport / Havoc Launcher / Warpflame Guargoyle / Dirge Caster
150 5x Chaos Spawn
170 1x HellDrake
170 1x HellDrake
125 1x Maulerfiend
120 1x Vindicator
120 1x Vindicator

total 1997pts

1 Deamon prince
1 Juggerlord with 5 Spawns
20x Khorne Space Marines in two cans
10x Nurgle Space Marines in a can to hold objective and shoot a bit more
2x Heldrakes
2x Vindicator to blast the gak out of him if allowed to survive a bit
1x Maulerfiend, if he forgets about him he will regret it
8 Vehicules total


less points in the Deamon Prince and a bit more variety in the CSM who now have Dirge casters, and one of those teams are Nurgle with Plasma guns, Boltguns (Ultra Grit) and a Havoc Launcher with Soulblaze on their Rhyno

Nurgle dps can't sweep in combat which is a disadvantage for a unit that always wants to be in combat. Tzeentch daemon princes get to reroll failed saves of ones. Thus means if making an armor save they're usually only screwed if they roll a two. And gives them a better chance on making their invulnerable save. They're a lot heartier than nurgle dps.

how does this look?

240 1x Demon Prince /Tzeentch / Power Armour / Wings / Black Mace
170 1x Chaos Lord / Khorne / Juggernaught / Sigil of Corruption / Axe of Blind Fury
245 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb - Rhino Transport / Dirge Caster / Icon of Wrath
245 10x Chaos Space Marines / Khorne / Hand Weapon and Pistol / 2x Melta gun / Meltabomb - Rhino Transport / Dirge Caster / Icon of Wrath
277 10x Chaos Space Marines / Nurgle / Boltgun / Pistols and hand Weapon / 2x Plasma gun / - Rhino Transport / Havoc Launcher / Warpflame Guargoyle
120 4x Chaos Spawn
170 1x HellDrake
170 1x HellDrake
120 1x Vindicator
120 1x Vindicator
120 1x Vindicator


total 1997pts

1 Deamon prince
1 Juggerlord with 4 Spawns
20x Khorne Space Marines in two cans
10x Nurgle Space Marines in a can to hold objective and shoot a bit more
2x Heldrakes
3x Vindicator to blast the gak out of him if allowed to survive a bit
8 Vehicules total

I changed the DP to Tzeetch added icons or wrath on Khorne Marines and switched the maulerfiend for a third vindicator and took out a chaos spawn and the dirge caster on shooty rhino to make up the points for this

2 Helldrakes, and 3 Vindicators is doing some serious damage each turn if all 5 are on the table alive.

Interesting list.

Daemonic Possesion if possible on the vindicators.

It is a decent build but your disclaimer of it not being cheesey is a little false, this build was something I saw all to common at Good the Bad and the Ugly and at adepticon this last events.... Good luck and have fun with it.
I have had good luck running Nurgle lord on bike with power claw and fist with 5 spawn mark nurgle with sorcerer on bike (no marks) go for biomancy and try to make them awesome with endurance and enfeeble (for enemy).

people are mentionning demonic possession for vindicator and I dont get it since it only changes crew stunned into shaken which still only allows the vindicators to fire snap shots which means no blast weapon right?

I think im missing something

I figure its not just the 5++ thats making people tell me this