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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 22:22:07
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have searched but haven't found so I thought I would ask... Could anyone with the Iyanden supplement please tell me if there is any reference to Codex:Eldar allying with "Codex":Iyanden? Like Codex:Space Marines allying with Codex:Blood Angels or something similar. I somehow doubt it since there is no reference to any such thing in C:E but I just thought I would check.
Agusto
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 22:30:11
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Kelne
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Check out the allies matrix.
You'll notice an army never has a classification as an ally.
You're not supposed to ally "with yoursef"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 22:46:58
Subject: Re:Eldar allied with eldar?
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To start, I am NOT saying that you are wrong. In fact, I agree with you and think that it is the way I reckon it is... but... since both C:E and "C":I are post-BRB the matrix feels a bit dated. In my world, the "not allying with yourself" really should have been adheard to all the different space marine chapters! If one is to regard all of them as different armies, why not regard different craftworlds as different armies? It will be interesting to see what these Supplements will do to armies as well as the allies matrix if GW will continue down that path... One can only guess if there had been any difference if they had called it Codex:Iyanden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 22:48:34
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I think the question is "Is an Iyanden army (using the supplemental rules) considered to be an Eldar army for the purposes of Allies?"
Unless the supplement says otherwise they are still C: Eldar and as such cannot ally with C: Eldar.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 23:35:27
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Making Stuff
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Yup, the Iyanden book is not a codex. It is a supplement to Codex: Eldar.
As such, an Iyanden army is still a Codex: Eldar army. So no, you can't ally the two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 00:35:18
Subject: Re:Eldar allied with eldar?
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Executing Exarch
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Agusto wrote:To start, I am NOT saying that you are wrong. In fact, I agree with you and think that it is the way I reckon it is... but... since both C:E and "C":I are post- BRB the matrix feels a bit dated. In my world, the "not allying with yourself" really should have been adheard to all the different space marine chapters! If one is to regard all of them as different armies, why not regard different craftworlds as different armies? It will be interesting to see what these Supplements will do to armies as well as the allies matrix if GW will continue down that path... One can only guess if there had been any difference if they had called it Codex:Iyanden.
Adding that to what classifies as "marine tax".
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Rick Priestley said it best:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 01:18:47
Subject: Re:Eldar allied with eldar?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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It's explicitly stated that Eldar Corsairs can ally with Eldar, and vice versa. Their army list appears in IA11: Doom of Mymeara ... they don't have full access to everything, but have a lot of fun toys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 16:56:24
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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The confusion is coming from the fact that you're calling it "Codex: Iyanden" when in reality it is entitled "Iyanden: a Codex Eldar Supplement". Unfortunately in regards to choosing an allied detatchment p.109 states "this must be a different codex to the one used for the primary detachment.". If there was a "Codex: Iyanden", you would be able to ally with it, similarly to the space marines example you stated earlier. Alas, there is not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 05:43:22
Subject: Eldar allied with eldar?
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Emboldened Warlock
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Bojazz wrote:The confusion is coming from the fact that you're calling it "Codex: Iyanden" when in reality it is entitled "Iyanden: a Codex Eldar Supplement". Unfortunately in regards to choosing an allied detatchment p.109 states "this must be a different codex to the one used for the primary detachment.". If there was a "Codex: Iyanden", you would be able to ally with it, similarly to the space marines example you stated earlier. Alas, there is not.
This...
Basically the Iyanden supplement is a set of optional rules/wargear/etc that you can ADD to a Codex:Eldar army to flavour it. You can ally with Eldar Corsairs from IA:11 Doom of Mymeara (due to Corsairs taking the profile of Eldar or Dark Eldar for allies purposes depending on what is more beneficial). But alas You can't ally craftworlds together.
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So far the effectiveness of 10 Wraithblades with Ghost Axes:
Tanked 2 Leman Russ squadrons (including the battle cannons and the triple plasma variant); whilst also getting wailed on by everything imaginable in a Fortress of Redemption. Only to get into CC with the tanks and open them up.
2000 points worth of Necrons with Forgeworld additions. Got into CC with a court of Lords and opened them up.
Killed a GUO.
Killed Angrath the Gargantuan Bloodthirster in an Apoc game (with the help of Iranna the Spirit Seer).
Ate a Hammerhead, pathfinders and scored after 3 turns of walking towards a 2000 point Tau gunline and overwatch!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 06:25:57
Subject: Re:Eldar allied with eldar?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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For what it's worth, the Iyanden rules go something along the lines of "An army chosen from Codex: Eldar may choose to use the following options instead". It definitely classes as still being a Codex: Eldar army.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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