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Had to. Stalin basically made it simple. "No One Leaves. Everyone fights" Well actually fight and work at the factories. Remember they had a tank factory still going strong. Straight from the end of the assembly line straight into a unit.
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Hope it doesn't have a weird, freaky, and "WTF" love scene in it like "Enemy at the Gate"
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I still maintain that the 1993 German movie "Stalingrad" is the best depiction of the battle of Stalingrad. It's more historically accurate and not as hollywoody as Enemy at the Gates, for one thing.
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Ooh. This looks like a good one. Is this going to be a cinema release?
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The 1993 Stalingrad movie is great, if a little dated looking now. It was a very violent film for it's time (it was pre Saving Private Ryan) and didnt pull any punches regarding the horrendous conditions and the dog eat dog mentality in the surrounded and starving German army.
This looks quite good, not sure about the slo-mo at the end though. I'm fine with that in 300 style fantasy movies, but in a WW2 film it just seems a bit weird.
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By my account I should hate this film (I do not like cool/slick/slow mo cinematography, I prefer a more realistic screenplay such as that in the 1993 film.
But I'm going to have to watch it, it looks pretty good, and there are just not enough mainstream films from the Soviet point of view.
Having said that I do not want any English Soviets! I want a Soviet to speak Russian, and a German to speak German. Not and English or American pretending to be Soviet/German.
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: I still maintain that the 1993 German movie "Stalingrad" is the best depiction of the battle of Stalingrad. It's more historically accurate and not as hollywoody as Enemy at the Gates, for one thing.
Well, they're basically different kinds of movies, made for very different audiences. I mean, in the the earliest scenes they depict a long since disproved cliche based on a confusion between WWI & WWII (the first man carries the rifle...), so asking for any great deal of accuracy after that isn't very sensible. The sniper scenes were pretty done after that, and Ed Harris was terrific as Major Koenig.
Now, I'm not saying it was a good movie, merely an alright one, but one that should be compared to other WWII films that weren't really about telling an historically accurate story (Kelly's Heroes, Guns of Navarrone).
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LuciusAR wrote: The 1993 Stalingrad movie is great, if a little dated looking now. It was a very violent film for it's time (it was pre Saving Private Ryan) and didnt pull any punches regarding the horrendous conditions and the dog eat dog mentality in the surrounded and starving German army.
Yeah, that was my experience. I loved Stalingrad when it first released, including the very realistic feel of the combat. I saw it again some time after seeing Saving Private Ryan, and it was clear how massively SPR had changed what we expect of combat scenes. The actions scenes in Stalingrad no longer had that visceral feel to them.
Still a great movie, though.
This looks quite good, not sure about the slo-mo at the end though. I'm fine with that in 300 style fantasy movies, but in a WW2 film it just seems a bit weird.
Yeah, I agree.
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Having said that I do not want any English Soviets! I want a Soviet to speak Russian, and a German to speak German. Not and English or American pretending to be Soviet/German.
Having said that I do not want any English Soviets! I want a Soviet to speak Russian, and a German to speak German. Not and English or American pretending to be Soviet/German.
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LOL, I remember that. That's from Hunt for Red October right?
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From the trailer I'm getting the whole "This will be a horrible movie" vibe. That said, have any of you watched Russian TV? Any time an explosion happens they show it in slo mo like 3 times both forwards and backwards. They just seem to love things exploding slowly.
Relapse wrote: From everything I've read about that battle, the people defending that city had to have balls made of brass twice the size of coconuts.
To be honest, it was just as hard if not harder for the germans assaulting the city. While the Soviets managed to keep open a supply lane and receive a supplement of new troops and provisions, the germans were encircled in the wake of Operation Uranus and could only receive supplies from unbelievably ineffective airdrops. In addition, they were outnumbered and forced to fight on the soviet terms where their superior training, equipment and armored support would be irrelevant.
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