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Hey-
I am looking to create a 1500 point Eldar army that i can play with friends and at a local club (So mainly needs to be good against Tau)

So here is the list-
HQ:
Farseer: Eldar Jetbike, Runes of Warding, Spear of Teuthlas

Spiritseer: The wraithforge stone
Spiritseer: Uldranorethi long rifle

Troops:
10 Guardian Defenders: Missile Launcher
3 Windrider Jetbikes: Shuriken cannon
5 Rangers
3 Windrider Jetbikes: Shuriken cannon
5 Rangers

Elites:
5 Howling Banshees: Exarch: Triskele
5 Fire dragons: Exarch: Firepike, Iron Resolve, Fast shot

Heavy Support:
5 Dark reapers: Starshot Missiles, Exarch: Missile launcher, Fast shot, Night vision
Fire Prism: Spirit stones, Holo fields, Crystal targeting matrix
Wraithlord: Two flamers, Ghostglaive, Bright lance, Starcannon

1499

So- opinions and criticisms welcome

Farseer with one set of jetbikes in reserve, to sweep in and get an objective at the end of the game, other set on the board but with same purpose. Rangers infiltrate into cover and pick of units with less leadership. Spiritseer with guardians to again help with pinning. Dragons, Banshees and wraithlord travel up the field with the other Spiritseer to attack. Dark reapers hit bigger units and Prism to move 24" each turn to get a 3+ jink save, and fire the prism at either vehicles, HQ's or big masses of troops.

Well, you have 3 HQ's in a list using a single FOC... So unless you have some special rule for that in your club, you will have to get rid of 1.

And personally, I would drop the Firepike. 15pts for an additional 6" is a bit too expensive in my opinion.

Fire Prisms are great, so I'd keep that one. I don't have any experiance of Reapers, though they seem nice. The Wraithlord is also a good pick, though it is pretty expensive, so be careful how you use it.

As for troops, you should do just fine. Rangers are great back-field keepers; especially with a threatening wraithlord standing close for countercharging etc, and so are the Guardians. If you get enemies if their objectives, you also have JB to steal them. All in all, a solid list IMO (except for the 3 HQ's).

Hope it helped! =)

Oh-
In the Iyanden Codex Supplement it allows you to take a Shadow council. Which is one-five spiritseers for a single HQ choice.
And I am a heavy lover of Dark Reapers- They always do good in my battles, killing some stronger models and destroying weaker models. One of my favorite units.

Are you allowed to take Remnants of Glory in an Iyanden list? If not you'll be leaving that Longrifle at home (unless it's also on the Iyanden list, I don't have the supplement).

Personally? I like the list, but I'd make one or two tweaks. Lose Night Vision on the Reaper Exarch, I find night fighting little more than an inconvenience and rarely spend points on countering it. Ditch the CTM on the Prism, never seen a use for it on a Prism, those things shouldn't be going flat out (and the CTM is one use only). Dump Iron Resolve, by the time you've had enough casualties inflicted to need it, the squad has lost 40% anyway.

Then if it turns out you're not allowed the rifle, lose that too. That's 60pts saved. Add that to your leftover point and take 3 more Windriders. There's no such thing as too many Windriders.

Any character that can take remnants of glory can elect to take Gifts of Asuryan instead.
And that's a mistake with the crystal targeting matrix then- one use only makes it pretty pointless xD
The thing is I'll need to buy the next three jetbikes as i only have six at the moment- so until i get money- not an option really.
Things i do have that aren't in the list are-
Eldrad
Fuegan
The Avatar
An Autarch
Another farseer
5 Dire Avengers
10 storm guardians-2 flamers
4 more banshees
1 more dragon
1 Support weapon
Another wraithlord...

But i was thinking that the next thing i should buy would be a fast attack-
I am leaning towards a Hemlock because all people seem to do is complain about it, but i think it could be good-
People seem to be always praising Warp spiders? How good are they?

I wasn't sure about the artifacts. Wasn't sure if it was can't mix and match on a model or can't mix and match in the whole army.

At the moment I don't run Warp Spiders. But I will be getting the full unit of 10. Yes, they're short ranged, but against vehicles (not against some Walkers) they get a strength bonus, so they shred anything less than a Pred. Add the Jetpack infantry in and they can fairly easily hit rear armour, which makes it anything less than a Land Raider.

Can't see any way to make the Hemlock work. Can't cast Terrify on the turn it arrives, the reroll thing affects your own guys too, and it's made of paper. Whichever way I try, I can't make it a viable choice. Hawks, Spiders or Vypers. I run Hawks, but that's because I have the models from the last Codex, when they were better than Spiders...

I feel you have too many small squads, the Tau would easily pick off the Dragons and Banshees before they could do anything imo.

The troop choices are all really week, Tau have a lot of ignore cover ability so the Rangers might die very easily too.

Yeah i know about the Hemlock- But maybe the scythes could take out like some high armour units? I dunno.
The Banshees are mainly to be shot at- Usually can just about combat with a stealth suit squad on turn one...
And the Dragons, with a spiritseer with protect become godly- and i know i cant base the army around a 1 in 6 chance, but still it's pretty good. xD

 shamikebab wrote:
I feel you have too many small squads, the Tau would easily pick off the Dragons and Banshees before they could do anything imo.

The troop choices are all really week, Tau have a lot of ignore cover ability so the Rangers might die very easily too.

I agree about the rangers, but its actually good to have MSU against Tau, as it helps negate their markerlights somewhat.

Yeah- i suppose that is a bonus. I hate markerlights so much
"Oh- lets have 20 Kroot with snipers which have moved this turn fire them at you on ballistic skill 5! Wait, i just remembered, if i get three 6's then your wraithlord is DEAD"

To be honest it is a total mess. Career is geared for combat but is no good at it. Spiritseers sit in backfield units doing nothing. You have 2 types of back field unit: 1 has short ranged weapons so will be killed as and when the Tau player wants to the other relies on cover to survive which hopefully you can work out for yourself why that is dumb against Tau.

Your only mobility is in tiny units of jet bikes that achieve nothing.

Banshees are flat out terrible in any situation, there is no way to get them into combat and when they get there they only strike simultaneously as they have no grenades. They are a terrible unit. Whilst Fire dragons walking will never get into range.

Reapers are poor for their points. The only reason to take the EML is for flakk missiles. CTM isn't worth it on a Fire Prism (pretty much your only good selection). BL and Starcannon on the Wraith Lord doesn't really make sense. Why not just double BL?

Not meaning to be too harsh but this looks like a randomness collection of models with a seemingly random collection of upgrades. I would start again from scratch. Eldar's strength is in mobility you need speed and fire power yo deliver a killing blow where you need it. Warp Spiders are great and really excel against the all I2 Tau. GJB are a great option too. Wraiths can cause Tau a problem too as their plasma is S6. Spiritseers should only be taken if you're taking Wraith troops.

Lots of people just kill the Banshees...
I can't count how many battles have been turned by the efforts of the brave little girls xD
I agree that some of the force isn't great (And yes you were really harsh) But i do believe that you are wrong on some things.
Firstly- What is the backfield unit that has short range and will be destroyed how and when tau like?
I think Dark Reapers are absolutely amazing, and they can easily take out half a unit of most infantry out there in one turn.
And i can assure you when you are fielding spiritseers and you roll Protect/Jinx and Destructor/Renew you will never doubt them again. Last game I played involved fire dragons running around with 2+ armour. Along with an Avatar which in total took 8 wounds before it finally died, thanks to Renew.
Yes- I don't have enough jetbikes and i need to get some more, but there isn't much point saying "Start again from scratch" is there?
Unless you give me the 300 odd quid it will take to start again?

Guardians on foot with the masdively overcosted EML are a backfield unit with no effective range.

Protect/jinx is awesome. Renew is only great if you have the MCs to benefit. A solo Wraith Lord will be too easily killed in 1 round to truly benefit.

I say start from scratch because if you want an effective list you will need to. You need to play to the Eldar's strength and a competitive list needs a central idea.

Reapers are worse at killing MEQ than Warp Spiders and the Spiders kill everything else far better and provide AA, can kill AV12 easily (even threaten AV13), murder Terminators etc etc etc Reapers compete with Fire Prisms, War Walkers and Wraith Lords all of whom fulfil an important roll.