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Guardsman with Flashlight





This weekend, I will be the guinea pig for the New Eldar of my friend.
For sure, he will field WK, WL and WG.

Until now, I played PA&Fl. Blob or Plasma Mech-Vets.
None of those are very effective against T8.

So I was searching in IG, what are our options against MCs and especially MCs with T8 or more (Wraith-XXX or Tyranids with Big Arms)

Here are my findings:
- Vanquisher with LC & MM
- Demolition Vets (10 Meltabombs) but how to get in CC?
- HWS or Blob with LC and Order
- Vendetta
- Ratlings (100pts to remove only 1W) but might be helpful to kill Exarchs and Warlocks.

Do you have other ideas and what will you field around that?

(For this test party, we agreed to not include FW, neither Allies)

As a first draft (at 1850pts), I got this: (I just put the list to have an example of an anti-Wraith List)
2 x CCS 4x PG Chimera Dozer Blade

2 x Vanquisher LC MM

1 x PCS 4xFlamer Vendetta
1 x Vets 4x PG Vendetta

3 x Infantry LC Sniper Rifle + Commissar
3 x HWS LC

10 x Ratlings

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/06/26 08:39:04


 
   
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McKenzie, TN

The answer is always take more vendettas...seriously take more.

Having said that lascannons, melta, and plasma are the IG MC answers. Sniper rifles of any kind just don't work in the IG dex. Don't forget to use BiD against the MCs.

LRBT are great against wraithguard. That or I really like demolishers or medusas. These are wound on a 2+ and ignore the armour save of wraithguard so they work pretty great. Battle cannons are better in this case as you can stay at the back corner and be immune to most of his short range fire power.

Don't forget you can tie his wraithlords up in CC forever with just a simple stubborn/fearless IS. The thing will kill ~2 GEQ an assault phase. (so you should stay for challenge+8 guardsmen = 5 assault phases with a LC somewhere nearby)

Feel free to assault the wraithknight if he is foolish enough to allow it. If you bring melta bombs he will regret it. Otherwise that is going to be a real nightmare I would not recommend trying to kill it. Just plan to loose ~5 vehicles to it over the course of the game and try to get some cover to reduce the damage. (with cover and the short range you can reduce the damage to 2-3 chimeras but don't let it charge vehicle whatever you do).

The scythe wraithguard and double sword are the only wraithguard able to deal with GEQ in a timely fashion. They are all short range and if he walks then you should be able to dictate what the wraithguard get to fire at.

Overall just remember that he will be very short on models and most of these have short range weapons so make him spread thin and walk across the board so you can waste his offensive output. Plasma is great as they can just strafe the wraithguard while popping them with plasma shots. You will however need something on the lines of lascannons or melta for the wraithlords.
   
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Oregon

Banewolf could be a decent suicide counter to wraith troops. No save and wounding on 2's is nice.
   
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McKenzie, TN

I would not count on even a 9 banewolf list getting more than 1 shot from the entire list. 1 bane wolf will probably never get to fire. CWE are pretty good at putting down AV12 vehicles that decide to be within 12" of them.
   
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Georgia

One thing for the WK you could use suicide storm troops with plasma.

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McKenzie, TN

And get 0.9 wounds. Not counting any ++ Sv.

It is better to just focus down WLs with LC/ML shots and use the PG/MG spam or LRBT templates to deal with the wraithguard. If you can manage it tarpiting the WK is excellent and fairly easy if it comes to close to the gunline. If you need to kill it mass LC are the best answer in the IG codex. We just don't have cheap poison and snipers. Nor do we have ID weapons or S8+ CC deathstars. We have lots of LC though.
   
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Fortress of Solitude

9 Vendettas got you covered buddy

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Thank you for your answers.

So, no hat-trick, just standard LC.

 
   
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McKenzie, TN

Well you could always put a hat on a lascannon...
   
 
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