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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 13:34:31
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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You take a group of independent characters, like say ... the spiritseer from the Iyanden codex.
You join all of them to a single Spiritseer, which I from now will call "the anchor".
Now you place them in a way that places the anchor up front with the rest huddled up behind it.
Now when your enemy shoots you, he first has to wound the anchor. As soon as the anchor is dead the other IC's aren't part of the unit anymore and thus don't reveice any wounds.
Or did I overlook a rule? ^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 13:37:44
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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The Hive Mind
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You overlooked the rule that says when ICs leave units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 13:42:21
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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you leave a unit at the end of the movement phase. So no.
In the same way a character that falls out of unit coherency because of losses to firearms in his unit doesn't immediately leave the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 13:45:00
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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Page 39 has a whole section detailing when and how a independent character leaves and enters a party. These rules even cover what happens when models die within said unit and how it relates to the independent character. Without a special rule that change the order of operation or allow you to ignore the limitations within, you can not simply dissolve the unit in the middle of combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 14:37:37
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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That is not how ICs as super units work.
In order for it to work the way you are claiming all the ICs that are not the Anchor must have Simultaneous move actions.
Instead you have the Following(I will assume your Spiritseer "Anchor" plus 6 other ICs):
Anchor Moves to within 8" of all other ICs.
First IC moves and joins the Anchor's unit.
Seccond IC then joins the unit created by the Anchor and the first unit(which is now a single unit).
Third IC joins the superunit(which is the "Anchor" Spiritseer's unit now consisting of 3 models).
the Fourth IC joins the superunit.
The Fith IC joins the super unit.
the Sixth IC joins the superunit.
Now when you put the "Anchor" up front, and he dies you have just lost 1 model from the superunit(which is technically a spiritseer unit even if it no longer contains any spiritseers). During your next movement, you either start splitting the remaining ICs off or you start declaring the ICs joined to each other, the unit now being a unit of the first declared joined(example; you had a Ecclesiarchy Priest and a Lord Commissar in the original super unit, the priest moves first declaring it is joining to the LC, the super unit is now a Lord Commissar unit comprised of all ICs joined to it).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 22:01:20
Subject: Re:Rule wiggling IC's
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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There's absolutely no rules basis for having an "anchor", at all. An IC joins a unit by being within 2" of it at the end of the Movement phase - this includes other ICs as they are units too. The ICs therefore join with each other simultaneously.
As already mentioned, the ICs perform as one single unit until the end of its next movement phase - and even then, they only split if they've moved far enough away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 10:47:30
Subject: Rule wiggling IC's
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Aww I thought I found something to break the game. xD
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