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Hello DakkaDakka,

I've played a game with my new eldar, and I feel confidant about them. So I wanted to try them in a tournament. It will be my first tournament with eldar. So I wanted to run it by everyone on here.


Ok so I went over the list, I think this is what you meant.


Eldar (1850/1850pt.)

Farseer (105pt.) Singing spear

2x - Warlocks (70pt.)

Autarch (95pt.)
Eldar jetbike; Laser lance

5x - Fire Dragons (110pt.)

20x - Guardian Defenders (200pt.)
Scatter laser

20x - Guardian Defenders (200pt.)
Scatter laser

10x - Dire Avengers (260pt.)
> 10x - Dire Avengers
> 1x - Wave Serpent (130)
Holo-fields;

10x - Windrider Jetbike Squad (190pt.)
> 2x - Shuriken cannon

Crimson Hunters (160pt.)

Falcon (140pt.) Holo-fields;

Wraithlord (160pt.) Bright lance (x2)

Wraithlord (160pt.) Bright lance (x2)

What do you think?
The farseer will go with my guardians and the WL. The avengers and dragons will work together. The bikes do what they do best, and the autarch is to try to help the hunter come in when it needs to. Any tweaks?

I have increasingly started to question my use of Warlocks in foot Guardian units unless you get key appropriate powers, though the Guardians themselves usually pull through all right - though I do not see a point of having 20 without having two heavy guns.

With the Windriders I again see favouring more souls over heavy weaponry, any reason?

In the future I will rip the missile launchers off two of my wraithlords and model swords into their hands. Swords are stupidly inexpensive considering what they offer a Wraithlord.

What guns on the Falcon?

The points came out that way, I could throw around 70 if both warlocks are gone.

Not really worried about souls over heavy weapons. Just new to eldar and the points landed like that.

And it's a stock falcon, shuriken cannon.

 Mahtamori wrote:
I have increasingly started to question my use of Warlocks in foot Guardian units unless you get key appropriate powers, though the Guardians themselves usually pull through all right - though I do not see a point of having 20 without having two heavy guns.

With the Windriders I again see favouring more souls over heavy weaponry, any reason?

In the future I will rip the missile launchers off two of my wraithlords and model swords into their hands. Swords are stupidly inexpensive considering what they offer a Wraithlord.

What guns on the Falcon?

why you like swords? Granted their cheap, but their worse than old dex. One reroll to hit, instead of all re rolls to hit.

And gardians with conceal warlock... Ways wrong with that? Stick them behind other friedlies, and they have 3+ cover. Pretty good to me....

Honestly I prefer serpents over falcons... Better armor, and after delivered payload.... They can shoot tons.

agreed on why not two weapons on gardians, but why scatter laser? You do relize they don't twin link the whole squad right? I would take two BLs, but that's just me. I see upgrades all over the list that should be made... But I understand if theirs not enough points. You should get a warlock on bike to go with wind riders. Roll.... If its portent/jinx, keep it, anything else, trade for conceal. 2+ armour, "or 3+ cover, both really good.

I like the rest of the list

Well what should be upgraded? And I, or you, could re-write the list. Any help is better than none. And I was think about the wave serpent thing to. Might do that. And I don't have a warlock on bike just yet.

And about the guardians, it won't twin link their guns? And it's because it's S6 4 shots helps, I'm trying to keep them as infantry killers, lots of shots. So I was gonna add a star cannon if I get ride of the warlocks.

Keep the warlocks, please. I don't known why the other guy doesn't like warlocks,I ove them. Scatter lasers only twin link the models weapons, and since the model only has a scatter laser, that rule is useless. :( but you can still take the scatter lasers, that's fine. Just take two other In each squad. You could drop a BL of each wraith lord, to add another scatter laser to each gardian squad.

Can't take time to make a list rot now sorry, don't have my codex in me. You could do it though.

Haha, ok and thanks for the help.

Now the thing with the wraith lords, can't do that. It will drop my AT abilities for turn1 turn2. I was think of changing the falcon to a wave serpent ( cheaper Too ) . That leaves me with 10 for another shrunken cannon on the jet bikes.

Now I can always pull from the jet bikes if needed I just want to keep at least six so that two shuriken cannons.

What would you suggest?

Norm0041 is wrong.

change it to 2 squads of 10 guardians with WS. DA have longer range so don't need to move as much to get in range, more survivable and so you can walk them up field. Keep the dual Lances for Anti AV14. Getting the guardians up close is going to do way more than scatter lasers hanging back. I personally drop the heavy weapons all together. Also Warp Spiders. Drop the warlocks. Drop the Crimson hunter. Falcons are even more worthless than fireprisms and thats saying something.

upgrade autarch to run with Spiders, or give him mantle on the jetbike. split the GJB squad into 2 in multiple of three using as many cannons as you can. That should be about equal points. Also for really anti infantry you could do 3 WW with Scatter Lasers.

Well I can try that. But I don't think that would work very well. Plus their is no Anti-Air in that list, this is 6th Ed and a tournament.

Warp Spiders are litterally our second best AA, guided or not.

How? The monofilament? I don't see how or why tho.

I think it is because they have strength 7 against vehicles and 2 shots each.
But then again- don't take my word for it... This is coming from an avid Hemlock shipper xD

That makes sence.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/534354.page

That is what it means.