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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 17:37:18
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Kabalite Conscript
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Baron
3x raider warriors units ( 8 man with a blaster in raider DL)
2x blasterborn units ( 5 man with 4 blasters in venom, 2SC)
2x ravagers
Razor wing jet fighter with monoscythe
Eldar allies:
War walker squadron ( 3 walkers with scatter, missle, flak)
2x windrider units ( 3 riders each, 1 unit has shruriken cannon)
farseer on jetbike with mantle of the laughing god
The rundown:
Baron parties with one windrider unit (cannon) and acts as harass unit.
One unit of wind riders in reserve for late objective capture
Farseer for the guide/ prescience/doom/fortune buffing and bullet sponge
War walkers for some extra shots at range and an anti air boost.
Raiders and venom units are pretty straight forward - nothing new here just meat and potatoes for DE.
Seems like it could be decent...
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 18:24:41
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Its a decent list, but I'm find some things out of place. For example you shouldn't take a blaster in a non min warrior unit because if it ever gets to shoot then you are wasting all those splinter rounds. 1 blaster isn't reliable either. So either drop blaster for splinter racks and nightshields. You don't need the 5th body in trueborn unit, because if they get shot out of the venom, they are dead anyway, 1 extra body wont help them. I would swap out razorwing for voidraven for much more reliable Anti air with 2 missiles of choice for anti hoard.
For eldar detachment i must say that flak missiles are SUCH a waste. I mean they really are terrible for there price. Heck, a brightlance is cheaper! Do the math of what 3 strength 7 shots does to a necron flyer, you wont be happy. Most of the other weapons are good, since you don't need more AV i'd just simply swap for star cannon because i can assure a lot of competitive armies are in termie armour.
Not sure if baron is best fit for this list, he has no unit to roll with. 4 jet bikes don't make deathstar, and remember that he is worth a VP and right now is really easy to kill. Jet bikes aren't harassing units, they are last minute objective takers, and the best ones at that. Keep them hidden and troll last minute, that's what they are for. Maybe instead of baron got for a blaster archon or a simple Homunculus. Alternatively drop a unit of warriors for a big beastpack to add some serious punch.
Just my take on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 20:34:26
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Kabalite Conscript
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Well tried it last night, baron was win ( go first is always good) would have been amazing when hit with fortune, also gives the wind riders stealth and hit and run. He is not a death star but a unit of covienience.
Thanks for the input.
Except for dropping a whole unit/ vehicle i dont see a way get a void raven in there with 4 missles. I might try the splinter racks on one unit but I've found that a dedicated anti troop unit is not very versatile or threatening except to low armor infantry, could probably drop them to 7 man each and still be a little resilient, and save some points for some of the upgrades youbduggested... When the raiders drop, and they will, not a lot of av left to carry through the game without the blasters particularly against those termi lists or a necron flyers. The blaster born could lose the fifth guy but then it's a ld test on first casualty. Maybe a haemie instead if I could find the points somehow ( or in 1850, and up the razor to a void raven while I'm at it....).
I' ll give some, if not all our ideas a try and see if it fairs better thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 15:29:28
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Kabalite Conscript
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Okay phase two, taking in some of that feedback and moving up to a more standard game size for my meta I've moved it up to 1850 with the following load out:
Baron
3x raider warriors units ( 5 man with a blaster in raider DL)
2x blasterborn units ( 4 man with 4 blasters in venom, 2SC)
Ravager with night shield,flicker, 3DL
Ravager with night shield,flicker, 3disintigrators
Razor wing jet fighter with and night shield, flicker and cannon upgrade
beastmaster unit (5 beastmasters-1power weapon, 3 kymera, 5 razor wing)
Eldar allies:
War walker squadron ( 3 walkers with scatter, missle, flak)
2x windrider units ( 3 riders each, with shruriken cannon)
Spiritseer with faolchu's wing- run with baron giving shrouded
edited to fix the points I was over
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 15:34:03
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, the list is fast and fragile. Speed is your armor as always. I'd replace the Raiders with Venoms with dual splinter cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 16:05:19
Subject: 1750 competitive DE with Eldar allies
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Kabalite Conscript
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It was tempting to do just that, maybe i'd change one over to venom but probably not all three, gotta pop thopse transports before you get to the gooey middle  .
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