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Hey Dakka,

Thinking about this list for FoB this year. I know that BA took some knocks with PW changes *cough* Mephi/Dante *cough* so I am trying to get around it with a Generic Captain. See Below.

Let me know what you would change please!

HQ:
Capt. w/ PF and LC

Libby (Divination)

Elite:
Sang Priest x2 w/ 1 on SM Bike

Chaplain

Troop:
Death Company x10 w/ 3x PW/BP, 7x Bolter (Captain, Sang Priest, and Chappy go here to dish out hurt and take challenges)
LRC w/MM

ASM x10 w/ 2x Melta and PW

ASM x10 w/ 2x Flamer, PW and MB

Sniper Scouts (Libby Goes here rolling for prescience)

Fast Attack:
3x Attack Bikes w/ MM (Biker Priest goes here for 3+/ 4++, 5++)

Heavy Support:
Stormraven w/ AC/MM

1850 on the nose.

personally i think a captain is a bit lame for a blood angels. he brings no special abilities a group and that sort of synergy i feel BA needs. I would rather upgrade the chaplain to a reclusiarch, replace a priest with brother corbulo, and get a second librarian maybe with divination again to buff a squad. Or just upgrade to a reclusiarch and get more attack bikes.

I think grouping everything in one death star might be hard. I would just avoid them and the death company doesn't need FNP or furious charge from the priest. they have itall ready

Not sure about wasting a librarian with the sniper scouts. I personally would like to have him using prescience on a full ASM squad as they will need it to take down harder targets.

Take a black marker and cross out all BA HQs that are not "level 1 librarian". Rebuild list. Profit.

not sure if i would go that far. A reclusiarch with a death company is pretty good but personally i would rather have 2 librarians. If i was going bolters on my DC the reclusiarch with the rerolls would be a good plus. If i wasn't going DC or i was going DC with CC and bolt pistols i would not take him or a chappy.

For 2000 points i might go epostilary and a lvl 1 libby.

The main problem I have with DC in general is getting them into combat quick enough. Foot slogging it they tend to get cut down with guns and with jump packs they are crazy expensive.

The big downfall to DC is their deployment options. That, coupled with much of the codex being rather lackluster at this point, makes them easy targets.

The reason I built this list around the Capt. is that he can take two specialist weapons and still has an invul. save. The libby/reclusiarch/chappy either have AP4 (or 3 with a force sword) or strike at I1 with a fist. Our HQ's stink in H2H especially now that challenges are a thing. The Claw and Fist allow the extra attack and I get to choose between AP 3 or 2. I guess I could go with a Libby in TDA with SS and a Force Sword......not sure if this would be more usefull. It might be, but you lose a wound, are -1 WS, and drop to I4 and it costs 5 more points...

The sang priest in the DC squad is to give the chappy and capt FNP and as a last resort challenger. It will allow the captain to use his 4 or 5 attacks against PA and hopefully be able to pick a squad up with either combat res or sheer number of attacks from the unit. It has worked well in practice games thus far, but yes it is a gamble with that many points in one unit.

DC need to have an assault vehicle or their potential is wasted. The only one that seems to be viable is the LRC. It can take a lot of hits and still deliver the DC to the fray. A lucky melta shot can end that pretty quick though. Again, the BA have lost a bit of punch in 6E, but I feel this list is still pretty hard hitting.

As for the Libby with the scouts, Monster Hunters and home objective holders. Sniper scouts stink at hitting and I feel that the buff from the libby will at least negate that a little .

Just deny all challenges and stack an ASM with three characters with axes: libby, sarge, Sanguinary. Your opponent can only silence one of the three axes.

The captain can't touch the force multiplier effect of a libby. If your libby can roll up the 4++ invul or the counterattack/full BS overwatch power, it makes ASM quite dangerous again.

Martel732 wrote:
Just deny all challenges and stack an ASM with three characters with axes: libby, sarge, Sanguinary. Your opponent can only silence one of the three axes.

The captain can't touch the force multiplier effect of a libby. If your libby can roll up the 4++ invul or the counterattack/full BS overwatch power, it makes ASM quite dangerous again.

True that. I will go and see if I can find the points to get the Libby a JP. Why do you suggest Axes?

I dont like hedging on rolling the 4++. In the last 5 or 6 games, I have not rolled it once.....it is rather elusive to me haha. The one time i did roll it, i put the libby in a LRC and just ran around and wrecked face with a 4++ Land Raider. Sorry Tau ha!

Well look at the other divination possibilities.

1) Prescience. Better than the reclusiarch charge buff by far.

2) Perfect Timing. Not shabby with a pair of melta guns and perhaps inferno pistol

3) Misfortune: Although this gives a deny roll, it still nasty when it lands

4) Precog: sucks, switch it ou

5) Scrier's Gaze: if your list has a stormraven, its not useless, but still pretty corner case