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Either

List 1

HQ
-Karandras

-Spiritseer

TROOP
-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-fields)

-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-fields)

-5 Wraithguard
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Holo-fields)

ELITE
-10 Striking Scorpions (Exarch, Monster Hunter, Scorpion Claw)

FAST
-Crimson Hunter (Exarch)

HEAVY
-2 x Vaul’s Wrath Support Battery (Shadow Weaver)

-Wraithlord (2 x Bright Lance, 2 x Flamer, Ghostglaive)

-Wraithlord (2 x Bright Lance, 2 x Flamer, Ghostglaive)

1850/1850

Or

List 2

HQ
-Baharroth

-Autarch (Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike, Fusion Gun, Laser Lance)

TROOP
-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (TL Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannon, Holo Fields)

-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (TL Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannon, Holo Fields)

-10 Storm Guardians (Flamer x 2)
---Wave Serpent (TL Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannon, Holo Fields)

FAST
-Crimson Hunter

-Crimson Hunter

-10 Swooping Hawks (Exarch, Marksman’s Eye, Sunrifle)

HEAVY
-Fire Prism (Holo Fields)

-Fire Prism (Holo Fields)

1850/1850


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I might try mixing the lists too if anyone's on that train.

A few things for list 1; you may need a second smaller group of scorpions so the person has to target priority, I don`t know how your going to get the platforms up the table.

I don't really think either list is the best you can field with Eldar, but if i really have to choose between those two, i would say the first one.

good because I have been working on the 1st list

HQ
-Karandras

-Spiritseer

TROOP
-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Holo-fields)

-10 Guardian Defenders
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Holo-fields)

-5 Wraithguard
---Wave Serpent (Scatter Laser, Holo-fields)

ELITE
-7 Striking Scorpions

-8 Striking Scorpions (Exarch, Scorpion Claw)

FAST
-Crimson Hunter (Exarch)

HEAVY
-Wraithlord (2 x Bright Lance, 2 x Flamer, Ghostglaive)

-Wraithlord (2 x Bright Lance, 2 x Flamer, Ghostglaive)

Well, I like list 2 more because there are more tanks (Fire Prisms). I know that you are liking Wraithlords. I find that they are fluffy in an Iyanden force but otherwise they suck. Sorry to say that.

I just have found the Prisms largely ineffective overall...good at everything...great at nothing.

AP3 blast is great but I barely ever see a 3+
AP2 blast is small and not S8
AP1 lance is ineffective when it isn't twin linked or S10...almost never worth using

Overall I tend to find myself pounding 4+ & 5+ armor save troops with AP3 large blasts...inefficient. Not to mention the lack of serpent shields and prominence of Tau Pathfinders means they are the first tanks to get penned.

The Wraith on the other hand can toss tanks and infantry efficiently.

If I downgraded the Wraith/Spiritseer to guardians and lost the hunter exarch upgrade I could fit another hunter in...or swooping hawks...I am really finding that sunrifle worth it for blinding tau and necrons.

When looking at my lists...maximize durability...not damage output. I figure that the more turns I have with a unit alive the more tactical I can be. This game isn't all alpha strikes and list building.

 ductvader wrote:
Not to mention the lack of serpent shields and prominence of Tau Pathfinders means they are the first tanks to get penned.

Pathfinders have a 36" range, Fire Prisms have a 60" range. This should not be a problem.

 shamikebab wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Not to mention the lack of serpent shields and prominence of Tau Pathfinders means they are the first tanks to get penned.

Pathfinders have a 36" range, Fire Prisms have a 60" range. This should not be a problem.

This is true until you factor in deployment types, terrain, reserves, threat vectors, and general gameplay. Also, 3 Squads of pathfinders and many other markerlight sources.

 ductvader wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Not to mention the lack of serpent shields and prominence of Tau Pathfinders means they are the first tanks to get penned.

Pathfinders have a 36" range, Fire Prisms have a 60" range. This should not be a problem.

This is true until you factor in deployment types, terrain, reserves, threat vectors, and general gameplay. Also, 3 Squads of pathfinders and many other markerlight sources.

There is always a counter to everything. But probability and the current meta are in favor for the Prism.

I think this is largely true for those that play against MEQ and maybe TEQ but I am constantly underwhelmed by the small impact they have on my games. They either blow up or don't wreak havoc against Xenos/Chaos like they would against marines.

I currently wouldn't wish to take the lances on the wraithlords either but I need some kind of ranged heavy AT