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After playing with the new codex for about a month this is my new TAC 1850pt army.

Please give me any and all critiques/suggestions/concerns

1x Jetseer + SS
1x Jetlock + SS

6x jetbikes + 2 SC

12x guardians
Wave Serpent w/SL + HF + SC

5x Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent w/SL + HF + SC

5x Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent w/SL + HF + SC

5x Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent w/SL + HF +SC

1x Crimson Hunter Exarch

3x War Walkers + 2x SL/BL, 1x BL/BL

2x Fire Prism + 2x HF

IF I were to change anything it would be:
A) Dropping the Crimson Hunter Exarch for a squad of 10x Warpspiders.
B) Dropping a Fire Prism for 2x War Walkers with BL/BL
C) Toying With a a LaughingTarch

Questions:
are Wraithguard worth it, especially using this list a base?

Edit: forgot shuriken cannons on WS's

1. I would personally make the war walkers all bright lance. Using the scatter lasers might make one twin linked, but it still only one shot instead of two and a lot of the time the scatter laser shots will be wasted.

2. I would say keep the hunter personally as he gives you a chance against heavy vehicles if the war walkers go down. Plus you have a lot of anti infantry fire already.

Maybe consider dropping a unit of DA's and their serpent to get the warp spiders?

You could drop the fire prism, but they are useful for their pie plates against hordes so it depends on your usual opponents and how many tanks they field I guess. I think the fire prism is a more versatile unit than bright lance war walkers (as it can take on all types of target with its variable firing modes).

Not tried the laughingtarch so can't comment on him, but the wraithguard are always worth it. Chuck them in a serpent to go well with the rest of your list (wraithblades should be on foot imo). Wraith cannons and d scythes are the best options here, especially the scythes for their nasty anti everything flamer templates!

The War Walker conundrum is something I think about quite often..

I wouldn't want to drop a DA's squad, I wouldn't want to loose scoring units considering they are mostly 5 man units.

BUT I could drop a FP, and DA for a Wraithguard/serpent unit. using the extra points to buff my troops.

Looks pretty good. I second making the war walkers either all lance or all scatter. Both are good, just depends on what you need.

I like this list a lot.


If you were going to take wraithguard you'd want them to be scoring. not enough points for the wrathguard + seer in this list.

Think about:
Take warp spiders > crimson hunter, then make your war walkers scatter laser / star cannon

for any AV 14, the 2 fire prisms should be enough.
for av 13, fire prisms + warp spiders + shields from the wave serpents

So, if you have 2 prisms and 10 warp spiders, the bright lances aren't as useful as having 2 twin linked ap2 shots on each walker

War Walkers are okay but really rely on terrain to protect them as they are av 10 open topped and only have a 5++.
With war walkers you really need to decide what you want them to do. Either its sl/sc or bl/bl. Never one of each.

Also, wraith guard are out performing fire dragons every game for me as they are high in toughness and have str 10 ap2 shots. Yes they need a serpent for delivery but you really cant complain about having another 2 serpents.

Drop the flyer as our flyers suck ass. They will be shot at by small arms fire and can be glanced to death. More than likely you will be snap firing with it all the time. So not a wise investment of points.

Warp Spiders are actually our best defense against flyers. They hit more than our actual flyers before guide or prescience even is accounted for. Add one of these and the % sky rockets.