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This is a 2506 point list for Ulthwe Eldar and Blood Angels. The eldar provide a strong shooting line and some fast moving troops, while the death company are essentialy just a small pod of death that aught to be able to deal with anything my opponent can throw against them. This army hasnt been tested in battle yet because i dont want to spend money on a list this big just to find it doesnt work, I would really appreciate any thought on this list and any changes you think might be needed. Thanks guys!
Blood Angels-750pts:
HQ:
-Reclusiarch=130pts
Troops:
-Death Company x10 w/Infernus Pistols x2, Power Axe x2, Power Fist =285pts
Elites:
-Death Company Dreadnaught w/Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun =135pts
Heavy Support:
-Stormraven Gunship=200pts
Eldar-1756pts:
HQ:
-Eldrad Ulthuran=205pts
-Farseer w/Runes of Warding, Runes of Witnessing=125
Troops:
-Jetbikes x6=102pts
-Jetbikes x6=102pts
-Jetbikes x6=102pts
-Jetbikes x6=102pts
-Rangers x5=60pts
-Rangers x5=60pts
Fast Attack:
-Warp Spiders x7, Exarch w/Spinneret Rifle, Fast Shot=168pts
Heavy Support:
-Fire Prism w/Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones=150pts
-Fire Prism w/Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones=150pts
-Fire Prism w/Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones=150pts

-Dark Reapers x3, Exarch w/Missile Launcher, Flak Missile, Fast Shot=140
-Dark Reapers x3, Exarch w/Missile Launcher, Flak Missile, Fast Shot=140

I don't know much about Blood angels or death company, but should your death company dread have one of those magna grapple things? They are really good if you can find the points. Also, the DC might be loaded a bit heavy, but ask a BA player.

The farseer does not need runes of warding or witnessing, there are better places to kill the points. Where exactly are your farseers hanging out? Eldrad is expensive and will be a target. Your mass amount of jetbikes and rangers score but lack killing power. Might want some serpents or cannons on the bikes.

Spiders are good, the exarch is ok but you could just get more spiders. Prisms don't need spirit stones, but they are okay to kill points. The reapers are easy targets, and even double tapped the flak missiles are quite meh for AA(you can guide shooting anyways..). I would keep the reaper launcher and just take starshot for the exarchs, but these squads are easy prey.

You're not putting those DC in the Stormraven are you?

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 Dr. Serling wrote:
I don't know much about Blood angels or death company, but should your death company dread have one of those magna grapple things? They are really good if you can find the points. Also, the DC might be loaded a bit heavy, but ask a BA player.

The farseer does not need runes of warding or witnessing, there are better places to kill the points. Where exactly are your farseers hanging out? Eldrad is expensive and will be a target. Your mass amount of jetbikes and rangers score but lack killing power. Might want some serpents or cannons on the bikes.

Spiders are good, the exarch is ok but you could just get more spiders. Prisms don't need spirit stones, but they are okay to kill points. The reapers are easy targets, and even double tapped the flak missiles are quite meh for AA(you can guide shooting anyways..). I would keep the reaper launcher and just take starshot for the exarchs, but these squads are easy prey.

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I agree about the grapple, I was dying to have one but couldnt find the points, people had been telling me that runes of warding and witnessing had been a bit nerfed in the new codex so i might cut them out and place a grapple. It also might be an idea to cut either a jet bike squad or a ranger squad and give the remaining jetbike units a warlock and some cannons. Ill play around with the list a bit and see how it goes. Thanks!


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Martel732 wrote:
You're not putting those DC in the Stormraven are you?

That was the plan, bad idea? I didnt want them to get shot too pieces before they could do any damage.

 WE Drake Man wrote:

people had been telling me that runes of warding and witnessing had been a bit nerfed in the new codex
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This is a colossal understatement. Runes of warding used to be the best psychic defense in the game and for the steal of 15 points your opponent only had about a 50% chance to get a power off, and a 25% chance to perils. Runes of witnessing used to make it near impossible to fail a psychic test.

Now both are one shots that are not useless, but horribly overcosted for what they bring. Farseers are ML3 off the bat, so they deny most psykers on a 4+, having the runes will give you one deny on a 2+, but the most dangerous powers are usually blessings anyways. Witnessing is okay for the re roll but very expensive for a one shot. Most powers will pass on Ld10 and a ghosthelm can save you if you really need it.

The magna grapple costs the same as witnessing, but can be used more than once, is on a tougher model and will kill things. With the points from warding you could swag out your reclusiarch or DC some more. Also, those infernus pistols are 6" range right? I would toss those as you have better AT options everywhere else. If plasma pistols cost the same they work decently well against armor, and the DC have FNP so they don't care as much about overheat. Then again, I am no expert on BA.

"That was the plan, bad idea? I didnt want them to get shot too pieces before they could do any damage."

If the Stormraven they are in goes down, they all take ST 10 AP 2 hits. Instagib city. Don't ever use the Stormraven as a transport. Ever. Get a land raider.

As a personal opinion, I would never take axes. Sure, their stats are decent, IF they get to hit something. But I find them overpriced for what they do.