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HQ
Dante 225
Sanguinor 275

ELITE
2 Sanguinor Priests, chainswords, hand flamers, melta bombs, jump packs. 175

2 Sanguinory Priests, bolt pistols, powerswords, jump packs, meltabombs. 185

TROOPS
5 Sanguinary Guard, powerfist, banner, plasma pistol, inferno pistol. 260
5 SG, pf, pp, ip. 230 (X2 units like this)
5 SG, pf, ip. 220
5 SG. 200

2000pts exactly

Apart from the obvious lacking in the list, I will choose not to pick on them and instead try to optimise this list instead of recommending a different one as it seems this is the kind of list you want to play.


Merge units to be bigger. 3 units of 8 makes better use of the feel no pain after you drop a priest. If you can drop Powerfist for melta bombs or even just drop them all together. You have enough power weapons to shear through any normal unit, and pistols + krak grenades will kill vehicles. With added points get yourself a jump pack librarian and make use that BA's have access to divination. This means a great primaris power and a chance to give the Guard the invul save they deserve.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Apart from the obvious lacking in the list, I will choose not to pick on them and instead try to optimise this list instead of recommending a different one as it seems this is the kind of list you want to play.


Merge units to be bigger. 3 units of 8 makes better use of the feel no pain after you drop a priest. If you can drop Powerfist for melta bombs or even just drop them all together. You have enough power weapons to shear through any normal unit, and pistols + krak grenades will kill vehicles. With added points get yourself a jump pack librarian and make use that BA's have access to divination. This means a great primaris power and a chance to give the Guard the invul save they deserve.

Sanguinary guard can only go in units of 5

Was thinking of adding either a stormraven, or dread liby, or sanguinor... for 2k army

I need advice if this is a doable list...

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I need advice if this is a doable list...

Drop two of the priests, you won't need that many. Add a Chapter banner. And give a seperate squad all Infernous Pistols to deep strike with Dante. You'll kill a vehicle, and if you are lucky maybe survive a turn.

Other than that, the list is playable as long as you have know illusions of grandeur with it. You'll will hammer certain lists, but get hammered by more lists.

If you ever need to see if something is viable and you aren't getting a lot of responses, just try it out.

Full proxy it if you have to. You're not getting a lot of critiques because it's a very unique list. No one has tried it would be my guess.

I have faced a 1500 point list like this.

Sanguinor
Dante

3x5 sanguinary guard
3x priests

Vs necrons

the sanguinor spent 4 rounds locked in CC combat with a C'tan while the rest of my army had trouble getting past the 2+ armour and fnp. Whatever armour save wasn't taken was fnp'd.

The only thing that slowed them down was wraiths.

My list didn't include any AP 1 or 2 weapons apart from the C'tan though

Saythings wrote:
If you ever need to see if something is viable and you aren't getting a lot of responses, just try it out.

Full proxy it if you have to. You're not getting a lot of critiques because it's a very unique list. No one has tried it would be my guess.

It got played a fair amount in 5th, and actually could do quite well for itself, I've ran it a few times since in 6th, and just been tabled everytime.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I need advice if this is a doable list...

It's doable, just not very viable.

I'm praying that whenever BA get a 6th ed update (yes, I know that will be a long time) that SG can be taken in squads of 10. As it stands they're small units that are far too vulnerable to AP2 weapons. They get whittled down before they can get a good charge, and don't have enough attacks to justify.

SG are my favorite -- I own 50 of them, but an all SG list is technically allowed, but it's not very viable against any opponent other than horse xenos. I say that because I'd had huge results putting death masks on SG and charging lower leadership units, especially with Dante's ability to hit and run.

As it stands you're paying for power weapons inherent in their cost when power weapons got worse on the whole, and they're still shoddy jumping terminators.

Just as pure DW aren't very viable for DA, pure SG for BA aren't either. I'd suggest taking at most 15 SG to give you the flavor, and use the rest of the points to diversify.

Thanks! That was what I was looking for...

Here is my army.


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Now too add on! For Armageddon battles!

Man I love Sanguinary list, I hope I can take over my friends models when he finally notices that he does not play them anymore. He has 60 SQ 12 SP Dante Sanguinor And some dreadnought backup.

Did you just buy that army from Ebay?

Yes.


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The combination of Dante with the Sanguinary Guard is quite powerful because of all these combined abilities:1) +1 attack2) Master crafted power weapons3) 3x infernus pistol4) Fearless5) No scatter when deepstriking6) Hit and Run7) Scoring unitAnother Critical Element: the Sanguinary PriestTo top this all off also attach a Sanguinary Priest (jump pack) with an infernus pistol and a power sword. Now have furious charge plus Feel No Pain bringing the combined unit's special abilities up to nine total. That's a lot of very useful abilities and makes for a real power house. Of course the Sanguinary Priest gives you another five attacks with another power weapon at WS5.

So, two obvious problems:

1) You have nothing that can deal with flyers. This is really bad because flyers, especially IG flyers, can be very good at removing small units of elite infantry.

2) You have only 30 models on the table. Anything with good shooting (Tau or IG) will quickly table you because you have no ability to absorb losses.

Solution?

Talons? Stormraven?

Then there's the reason I don't use the 5 models of these guys I own: plasma.

Here is why I wanted & needed a small army.

I bought it painted off ebay. I have no time or supplies to paint or assemble.

I had to consider a small army that would fit in a small case, that would fit in my backpack. I work m-f, and am on a motorcycle.

I can't game on weekends, but have an hour or so open every Wed, Thur, and Fri afternoons. I need fast games.

This army actually mirrors me! Get in fast, hit hard, and get out.

So there it is!

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Here is why I wanted & needed a small army.

I bought it painted off ebay. I have no time or supplies to paint or assemble.

I had to consider a small army that would fit in a small case, that would fit in my backpack. I work m-f, and am on a motorcycle.

I can't game on weekends, but have an hour or so open every Wed, Thur, and Fri afternoons. I need fast games.

This army actually mirrors me! Get in fast, hit hard, and get out.

So there it is!

Honestly mate, just try it, have fun with it. As long as you don't have any grand illusions of it becoming some super uber army, you'll be fine. I play a version of that list myself, and it is loads of fun. Which is what is most important to me anyway.

Any advise given on here or tactics, you have to understand that it is given from the perspective of making everything at its most optimal. Dakka has the largest wargaming crowd on any of the forums there is, and there is a big tournament community on here, so that will be the general mindset of which all advise is given.With the occasional exception.

Yeah, I focus on fun too. I can do some squirrely crazy stuff with this army....

I would stick Sanguinor in there as well, not only does he fit the theme really well, but he will has a bunch of cool rules as well.

Added sanguinor...

I love the sanguinary priest models and paint job. Would you be able to upload some close-ups of them please? - Thanks

More pics

Are the sanguinary priests using death company models?

Mephiston33 wrote:
Are the sanguinary priests using death company models?

Yes, they are.

This whole thing seems to have gone woefully off topic, to bring it back on. Have you had a chance to run this list yet, what were your thoughts if you did manage it?

Also I haven't spotted Dante in your pictures, he is a character you should consider using with this list.

Eldercaveman wrote:

Mephiston33 wrote:
Are the sanguinary priests using death company models?

Yes, they are.

This whole thing seems to have gone woefully off topic, to bring it back on. Have you had a chance to run this list yet, what were your thoughts if you did manage it?

Also I haven't spotted Dante in your pictures, he is a character you should consider using with this list.

Dante is above, with the red axe...

Typically I will deepstrike the combined units behind enemy tanks and shoot them. If the tank(s) is(are) wrecked rather than destroyed then the unit has a nice piece of terrain to hide behind. Then charge my following turn. 9 out of 10 times though the enemy tank will be destroyed due to the AP1 combined with 2d6 armor penetration. It's a great way to start the initial phase of the game.

Against armies such as mechanized IG I can always split off Dante, Sanguinor, and the Priest so that I can target up to three separate units. It can be a bit risky splitting them up like that, but with proper placement often I should place the Priest in-between Dante and the Sanguinary Guard such that they all still benefit from the Priest's Feel No Pain aura and as such they are three times as deadly versus armor.

Don't forget sanguinor isn't an independent character so must travel by himself.

posted actual list in original post.

Question: Has anyone tried running BA Sang guard squad in combination with a DA allied Librarian with a displacer field for 3++ to make this squad alot more Survivable? i know its a point sink. but hey DA allied scouts are good and cheaper then ours ;D