| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 15:32:03
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
|
I have a squad of 5 Havocs behind an Aegis Defense Line. Currently I am giving then VotLW. I was wondering if it would be better to give them T5 instead?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 15:40:16
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Legendary Master of the Chapter
|
It depends on the opponent.
+1 Ld can save your bacon some times but if your getting shot from a distance constantly a +1T can make it harder to kill obviously.
|
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 20:12:56
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Battleship Captain
Oregon
|
My vote is +1 LD because its cheaper.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 23:10:35
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Sneaky Lictor
|
+1 toughness....and why are you not playing obliterators. Obliterators really are that l33t.
|
On building Tyranid army flow chart.
Do you have enough Termagaunts?
No > Add More
Yes > No you don' t > Add more
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/15 23:29:30
Subject: Re:Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
|
T5 is better against any attacks that are Str6 and lower than the leadership. Less wounds taken means you won't take as many Ld tests in the first place.
|
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/16 00:10:58
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
+1T.
The +1Ld will only be helpful when you take more than 25% casualties, but you don't take 4 model's worth of casualties. The +T will help every time you're attacked by S3 to S6 weapons, which is going to be more frequent.
Also, the +Ld, in this case, prevents you from going to ground behind that aegis.
If you were talking about a big squad where the loss is greater from those occasional failed morale checks, then yeah, I'd be more concerned perhaps, but for a 5-man havoc squad... odds are they're going to get killed before they get run off.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/16 00:13:23
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
New Zealand
|
On a squad of 5 Havocs you should be much more worried about simply being torrented off the board than failing morale. If someone wants 5 T4 3+ save guys dead then they can usually do it, if they don't wipe them and are counting on you failing morale then they have played it terribly. Making them T5 means they usually need to use light anti tank type weapons (i.e S6-7) to wipe you, rather than doing it with small arms which will give you a chance at sticking around against more armies. The only thing that makes this a discussion is that the T5 upgrade is expensive, and VotLW is relatively cheap (and gives you something against Marines as well right?).
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/16 00:36:41
Subject: Which is better in cover: +1 Toughness or +1 Leadership
|
 |
Battleship Captain
Oregon
|
Personally, I'd take a 6th body over T5, especially if the squad is manning a quad gun.
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|