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c0un7_z3r0 wrote: That is not really what I've said is it? If you would read what I've actually said and how I've tried to explain this to people that seem to have misinterpreted what I've written in the same way as you seem to have, you might reach to another conclusion. I don't expect you to agree with me but you can at the very least respect me for my opinion. And if you didn't have the guts to throw this directly at me, why bother?

My response to this specific question got redacted because it was appended to another post as an edit which was in turn redacted. Hopefully THIS response will stay long enough to clear up any confusion:

I'm not sure what "guts" have got to do with it? Is the implication that I don'y have the "guts" to 'say it to your face' or something? As far as I can tell there is nothing "hidden" or "sneaky" about my post. I simply chose to summarise in a fashion designed to get my point across rather than quote a large block of text verbatim. I thought it was clear enough that I was referring to YOUR post sufficiently that I didn't need to flag you, or name-drop you, whilst at the same time clarifying my opinion on the use of pop psych in general in this thread.

I think it's immature. That's all I got.

This sort of whining makes me feel old. How in the seven shades of hell are moddels like this in anyway unappropriate? I mean its a friking tabeltop game played by guys for the most part.

Redbeard wrote:What was the original question?

Oh, yeah, I think cheesecake is not only appropriate for wargames, but should be required.

Eighteen pages later...

If we can't objectify our miniatures, who can we objectify?

I may have to sig this. Quite possibly the most fantastic thing to come out of this thread yet! I nearly fell out of my chair!


But in all seriousness, from a business, aesthetic, and cultural view, 'cheesecake' models will undoubtedly have a place in Infinity for the foreseeable future. Does this make it morally correct, simply because the majority of the company/buyers/players/painters agree with the ideal of cheesecake models? No. Is it adversely affecting the population as a whole? No.

A vocal minority has made it clear that they believe one or more of the following:
A. They don't think cheesecake fits with the aesthetics of the armies.
B. Cheesecake is indicative of a larger social problem that objectifies women.
C. They seek that the company provides suitable alternatives to these sculpts.

But until any of these opinions gains a majority standing, there is little cause for CB to change their models, current or future. Or any wargaming company, for that matter.

I for one believe to each their own, freedom of speech, and women's lib, and equality in the world. But I don't hate that my Skarre model is showing some skin.

Just because it has to be done...

You git!

I want cheesecake now.

Pundabaya wrote:You git!

I want cheesecake now.

Haha


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gunslingerpro wrote:

Redbeard wrote:What was the original question?

Oh, yeah, I think cheesecake is not only appropriate for wargames, but should be required.

Eighteen pages later...

If we can't objectify our miniatures, who can we objectify?

I may have to sig this. Quite possibly the most fantastic thing to come out of this thread yet! I nearly fell out of my chair!


But in all seriousness, from a business, aesthetic, and cultural view, 'cheesecake' models will undoubtedly have a place in Infinity for the foreseeable future. Does this make it morally correct, simply because the majority of the company/buyers/players/painters agree with the ideal of cheesecake models? No. Is it adversely affecting the population as a whole? No.

A vocal minority has made it clear that they believe one or more of the following:
A. They don't think cheesecake fits with the aesthetics of the armies.
B. Cheesecake is indicative of a larger social problem that objectifies women.
C. They seek that the company provides suitable alternatives to these sculpts.

But until any of these opinions gains a majority standing, there is little cause for CB to change their models, current or future. Or any wargaming company, for that matter.

I for one believe to each their own, freedom of speech, and women's lib, and equality in the world. But I don't hate that my Skarre model is showing some skin.

All I learnt from this thread is that Infinity has awesome minis

Now thats a cheesecake photo i can lust over!

<thread terminated; it's always good to end with dessert>