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I have recently started Infinity and have a 200pt PanOceania Military Orders Sectorial list. Due to it's somewhat unique Urban nature, I have read up on Modern urban tactics to the degree that I have a reasonable grasp on them. What I would like to know is what I should Engage, how I should engage it and what to avoid like the plague.

My list is as follows:

Knight of the Holy Sepulchre Lieutenant w/ Combi-Rifle, D.E.P & EXP CCW: 52 pts

Knights Hospitaller w/ Multi-rifle & AP CCW: 48 pts

Knights Hospitaller Doc w/ Multi-rifle & AP CCW: 52 pts

Knights Hospitaller w/ HMG & AP CCW: 49 pts

The armies my Meta have are PanOceania, Ariadna and Tohaa

Thanks for your time,
The Crusader

With that list i think most of your orders will be spent on your Doc trying to heal guys that have just been shot.

4 guys at 200 points isn't a lot as you will only have 5 orders max, including your Lt order. With guys who only move 4 - 2 you will struggle to achieve much in your turn if your opponent deploys out of LOS. You will almost certainly be outnumbered against Tohaa and Ariadna and Generic Pan O can still pack out lists with fusiliers to get 8 - 10 orders at 200 points. Your opponents will probably have an advantage in being able to outmanoeuvre you by having faster units with more orders to spend.

Although you have 4 guys with good stats, armour and 2 wounds all of the factions you mentioned have units that will deal with them pretty easily especially with a full turns worth of orders spent shooting them. Just losing one of your knights loses you a quarter of your list as well as a valuable order.

Thats probably not very helpful in terms of 'what to engage' but i think you would struggle to engage anything really effectively with the list as it stands. If your opponent has say 8 - 10 models in their list there are likely to be at least a couple of different units that will be able to take out your knights that would be priority targets, however without the orders to back them up your knights will be limited in what they can actually achieve in terms of engaging those units.

You might want to consider Knights Magister instead of Hospitaller.

I usually try and divide and conquer and keep them all together to support one another. That worked a helluva lot better than separation.

Also should have put this in the original post but I tend to just stick to my guns and adapt the tactics instead of the list.

Incidentally, would Leap-frogging work well?

Also the list of 'things to look out for' in Infinity can get pretty long pretty quick. Just taking Ariadna as an example as i play them and not the other two factions you mentioned they have tonnes of heavy weapons that will take out knights in short order including AP HMG, Autocannon, T2 Rifle, T2 Sniper rifle, Mk 12, AP Rifle, ADHL, Sniper Rifle, Viral Rifle. Thats not even taking account of regular HMGs or the humble rifle which can still do enough damage to kill a knight in a single order. And some of the weapons mentioned there are carried by camo troops, AD troops or other specialist troops that may be more difficult to engage directly. The other factions will have a similar range of nasty stuff to look out for including viral ammo for the tohaa and access to TO camo units and Pan O has access to various EM weapons that can immobilise the knights, hackers and mono-filament mines that ignore armour and wounds killing the model outright if it takes a hit.
So there is likely to be a long list of things to look out for whicever faction you play against. Its always worth checking out your opponent's army list to see which units are likely to give your knights the most trouble and try to focus on them where possible.


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I usually try and divide and conquer and keep them all together to support one another. That worked a helluva lot better than separation.

Also should have put this in the original post but I tend to just stick to my guns and adapt the tactics instead of the list.

Incidentally, would Leap-frogging work well?

I assume you are running the hospitallers in link team? I would keep the Sepulchre close to them to benefit from their aros

Because I'm so slow, would playing defensively increase my chances? Making them come to me and entering my fire lanes?

If you play missions you might not have a choice. Defensively might help with with a kill em all scenario but not with a snatch and grab.

Luckily enough, we only really play annihilation games. There's only a couple of veteran Infinity-ers in our mob.

Missions are great. They really change the game. Some armies can do all out kill 'em and some can't. Some are better at certain missions too. I highly suggest you try out some of the missions. Even jsut the ITS missions.

I reckon, we will. At the moment though, I think we're just trying to get used to the rules and feel of the game at the moment.

When you go to missions, you'll be bumping to 300pts. Get yourself some cheerleaders and an engineer. 200pt beginner games might work for you with 4 models, but once you hit 300, if you're not running 10 orders and, in missions, someone who can accomplish objectives, you're going to really struggle.

Cheerleaders, for MO as I understand, are Order Sergeants. Basically cheaper Light Infantry to bulk up your order pool, even if you don't intend to use them for combat. At best, they'll watch your fighters backs against AD units, and provide backup models to get into the fight if a main model goes down (and they will). At worst, they'll give your fighters a bunch more orders to kill things.

Order sgts can also be linked - to get better value from orders.
(SPECIALIST sgts CANNOT be linked though. Something to keep in mind).

You also lack hacking defense which will hurt. Your knights are not that useful if they are immobilized.

If taking Knights you really might want to consider De Fersen (if the orders you have allow it). Even if only for defensive purposes.

He's the best hacker option you have (BTS-6 with a higher than normal for PanO Wip) AND he's a spitfire carrying HI with a high BS.