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Cavalry, among other things, are "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)." This means that Cav doesn't need a xD6 roll, choosing the lowest, when moving through terrain; the parenthetical phrase implies that this refers only to the 3D6 charge-thru-terrain, and does not give an exception to the strikes-at-Ini1.

Is there any explicit statement that "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" does not include striking at Ini1? Or must we rely solely on this parenthetical implication to make Cav Ini1?

If you move through terrain and do not have the appropriate grenades, you will strike at I1

"not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" is referencing how far the unit moves.

Yes, I realise both those things.
The Initiative characteristic, though, "represents the swiftness of a creature's reaction. Models with a low Initiative characteristic are slow-witted, while models with a high Initiative characteristic react far more quickly" (BRB p2).
If it's all about speed ("swiftness," "slow-witted," "quickly"), then "not slowed" means their speed isn't affected.
"Charging Through Difficult Terrain" (BRB 22) says, "Warriors who charge through difficult terrain...must advance more cautiously." This is very similar language as used in the Ini characteristic. The warriors are slowed because they charge through terrain.

So again:
Is there any explicit statement that "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" does not include striking at Ini1? Or must we rely solely on this parenthetical implication to make Cav Ini1?

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Is there any explicit statement that "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" does not include striking at Ini1? Or must we rely solely on this parenthetical implication to make Cav Ini1?

No, there's no specific statement. It's an inference/parenthetical implication (nicely put, btw).

DR correctly called it.

For example, RzWing DE don't have grenades and will strike at Init 1 on their charge. That's why you run the Baron with 'em.

40k Main FAQ wrote:Q: Do models that ignore difficult terrain when moving or charging
still fight at Initiative step 1 if they charge through difficult terrain?
(p22)
A: Yes.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Yes, I realise both those things.
The Initiative characteristic, though, "represents the swiftness of a creature's reaction. Models with a low Initiative characteristic are slow-witted, while models with a high Initiative characteristic react far more quickly" (BRB p2).
If it's all about speed ("swiftness," "slow-witted," "quickly"), then "not slowed" means their speed isn't affected.
"Charging Through Difficult Terrain" (BRB 22) says, "Warriors who charge through difficult terrain...must advance more cautiously." This is very similar language as used in the Ini characteristic. The warriors are slowed because they charge through terrain.

So again:
Is there any explicit statement that "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" does not include striking at Ini1? Or must we rely solely on this parenthetical implication to make Cav Ini1?

Aside from the FAQ quote above, Initiative's "speed" (as described) is not the same as physical speed. "Swiftness of Reaction"/"Slow-Witted"/"React more quickly" does not indicate speed of movement but rather speed of reaction/mental acuity. They are not even remotely the same thing.

 Janthkin wrote:

40k Main FAQ wrote:Q: Do models that ignore difficult terrain when moving or charging
still fight at Initiative step 1 if they charge through difficult terrain?
(p22)
A: Yes.

Just cuz he wins an Anime Expo means he can make me look like a chump ...


Bummer that I wasn't able to attend, but you beat a number of the guys I regularly play. In fact, I lost to Ian's DE (blue paint, green canopies on the venoms) last night.

Nicely cited, anyway.

It's all those beasts & cavalry I use - I have to be familiar with that part of the FAQ.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Yes, I realise both those things.
The Initiative characteristic, though, "represents the swiftness of a creature's reaction. Models with a low Initiative characteristic are slow-witted, while models with a high Initiative characteristic react far more quickly" (BRB p2).

That part is just fluff and contains no actual rules.

If it's all about speed ("swiftness," "slow-witted," "quickly"), then "not slowed" means their speed isn't affected.
"Charging Through Difficult Terrain" (BRB 22) says, "Warriors who charge through difficult terrain...must advance more cautiously." This is very similar language as used in the Ini characteristic. The warriors are slowed because they charge through terrain.

Again fluff and not rules.

So again:
Is there any explicit statement that "not slowed down by difficult terrain (even when charging)" does not include striking at Ini1? Or must we rely solely on this parenthetical implication to make Cav Ini1?

Not slowed by difficult terrain has nothing to do with initiative values. Not slowed is talking about movement distance.

 DeathReaper wrote:
Not slowed is talking about movement distance.

Yes, as the already-quoted FAQ nicely pointed out.