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This is another try for my brothers Eldars, going for some jetbikes (4 teams) in this one with Warlocks council on jetbikes squad led by a Jetseer.
these are followed by 2 teams of Warp spiders for monofilament nastiness
An Aegis defense line with Vauls wraths Support with Shadow weavers blasting the crap out of everyone for super cheap (More monofilament nastiness,
I really like them) and some Guardians with a bright lance.
an Avatar playing guard dog (awesome!)

And 2 Fire Prism for mobile "whatever you need" long range shots!!!!

it goes like this

130 1x Farseer / Jetbike / Spiritstone of Anath'lan
440 8x Warlock Council / Jetbikes / Signing Spear (3 separate to join Guardians)
122 6x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 2x Shuriken Cannon
122 6x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 2x Shuriken Cannon
122 6x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 2x Shuriken Cannon
133 7x Warp Spiders
133 7x Warp Spiders
140 1x Fire Prism
140 1x Fire Prism

100 1x Aegis Defense line / TL Quad Gun
215 1x Avatar / Fast Shot / Crushing Blow
110 10x Guardians / 1x Bright Lance platform
90 3x Vauls Wraths Support Battery / Shadow Weavers
total 1997pts


what do you guys think?

seems pretty good for objective taking, Also seems pretty mobile for a list with an aegis defense line.

I used to run jetbike seer councils all the time with the last edition, honestly now with the inability to choose powers and LD 8 on warlocks I would run a big squad of windriders with a warlock and Jetseer and depending on the list a autarch on jetbike with shard of anarus + another cc weapon with banshee mask - this makes them a scoring unit and makes the unit pretty good. I just don't see the point as much with the seer councils like before.... If you have a bunch of warlocks choose the one that increases the save to 2up to go with jetseer and make that squad uber great esp against helldrakes....

I think you are lacking some anti-air, I would close this with either crimson hunters or Warwalker scatter lasers, hell I have taken down flyers with SL waveserpents too. I think you lack it now with so many jetbikes... IMO Good luck

I figure the farseer can help turn the warpspiders anti-flyer if the Quad gun cant handle it so im not too worried about flyers, and even then only 2-3 heldrakes would be a problem most other flyers wouldnt bother me that much and even one or two heldrakes shouldnt be so bad since I could probably have all the warlocks that are leading the jetbikes give +1 ArSv (due to having 8 of them) making them able to handle the heldrakes no problem (maybe make two teams of 9 instead of 3 teams of 6 could be a good idea)

Sure a flying croissant army would get me but im fine just surrendering to those list before the game starts to allow the other player to know that some list are only there to win, not to have fun.
This would allow them to have the win they so want without any frustration from my part.

As previously stated, seer councils are not as good any more. I'd add another jetseer, drop the jetlocks to 2, add 3 foot warlocks, another camping guardian squad, and change the quad gun to a lascannon (2 shots bs 10 is nice). Should still be very mobile, good anti-air made stronger by the presence of another seer. Cheers!

can the Avatar man the icarus lascannon?
with fast shot?
that would be awesome!!!

if I get 2 jetseer I cant have an Avatar tho

 fartherthanfar wrote:
can the Avatar man the icarus lascannon?
with fast shot?
that would be awesome!!!

if I get 2 jetseer I cant have an Avatar tho

Oh he can alright. You can just see him setting those delicate controls, aiming and shooting that enemy flyer out of the sky :-)

Him manning the Icarus is also why I look at giving him Night Vision as well since night fight shows up 50% on turn 1.

145 1x Farseer / Jetbike / Spiritstone of Anath'lan / Rune of Witnessing
165 3x Warlock Council / Jetbikes / Signing Spear
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
133 7x Warp Spiders
133 7x Warp Spiders
140 1x Fire Prism / Holofield
140 1x Fire Prism / Holofield
180 1x Crimson Hunter - Exarch

85 1x Aegis Defense line / Icarus Lascannon
220 1x Avatar / Fast Shot / Crushing Blow / Night Vision
90 3x Vauls Wraths Support Battery / Shadow Weavers
35 1x Warlock

total 2000pts

how does this list look?
less stuff in the defense line allowing more stuff to go forward where the heat is on

The Avatar can only take 2 powers

Looking good I would nix crushing blow, because 6 vs 7 isn't that much if you need the extra S just smash, which hopefully he is not getting into cc anyway as he is protecting the back line... Night vision and fast shot is nice in case you face Necrons or late game night fighting, Dark Reapers could accomplish this too, but a helldrake will make short work of them vs Avatar.
I would consider nixing some of the bikes in 2 of the squads to save for a crimson hunter for some more heavy weapons or even another guardian squad with brightlance, but I think you need more anti-air honestly... Good luck

130 1x Farseer / Jetbike / Spiritstone of Anath'lan
150 3x Warlock Council / Jetbikes
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
183 9x Windrider Jetbike Guardians / 3x Shuriken Cannon
133 7x Warp Spiders
133 7x Warp Spiders
140 1x Fire Prism / Holofield
140 1x Fire Prism / Holofield
180 1x Crimson Hunter - Exarch

85 1x Aegis Defense line / Icarus Lascannon
210 1x Avatar / Fast Shot / Night Vision
165 1x WraithLord / GhostGlaive / 2x Bright lance

total 2000pts

I kindof figure the Wraithlords bigger weakness is his lack of invulnerable so sticking him in the ADL will help with the 4+ coversave.
Planning on putting the ADL as close to the enemy as possible with a good line of sight on him and watch this bastion wreak havoc on the enemy with their double Lascanon shots at Bs10 and double bright lance shots, they are so tough they wont go down easily by shooting and only a really powerfull dedicated close combat group could hope to hurt them.

This gives me more anti tank shooting and makes me more comfortable putting the ADL forward if needed than the Vauls Wraths Support Batteries.