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1850 Pts - Codex: Chaos Space Marines Roster - Huron Armor 1850

Total Roster Cost: 1849

HQ: Warpsmith

HQ: Huron Blackheart

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (11, 224 pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines, flamer flamer
1 Aspiring Champion, Power Sword
1 Chaos Rhino Combi-melta,

Troops: Chaos Space Marines
19 CCW 2 Meltas
1 Aspiring Champ w/ plasma pistol and power weapon

Troops: Chaos Space Marines
9 Chaos Space Marines, 2 Plasma Guns
1 Aspiring Champion

Elite: Helbrute

Elite: Helbrute

Elite: Helbrute

Heavy Support: Defiler

Heavy Support: Maulerfiend

Heavy Support: Maulerfiend

Fast Attack: Raptors (5#, 135 pts)
4 Raptors Meltagun x2
1 Raptor Champion + Melta Bombs, Plasma Pistol

Composition Report:
HQ: 2 (1 - 2)
Elite: 3 (0 - 3)
Troops: 3 (2 - 6)
Fast: 1 (0 - 3)
Heavy: 3 (0 - 3)
Fort: 0 (0 - 1)

Now the goal is, very dependent on mission and deployment, but to outflank 2 units, the flamers and raptors. You find out night fighting before deployment so if night fighting then I would deploy empty rhino on the board and outflank the squad (searchlight is handy, especially for 48"+, battle cannon and lascannon). I would love to outflank the rhino flamers and raptors and start Ramming vehicles in the rear haha. All this leaving Lascannon out of 36" range for nightfighting and 5 walkers (defiler stays back) moving up. Hopefully this makes it too much AV for the too few high Str weapons.

Any thoughts? Clearly all the strategy is METTT-C


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Oh and I would love to curse some friggin Eldar vehicles haha! Or repair my own...

Maybe Cut down on the Helbrutes, and I personally would take warp talons or a Heldrake instead of Raptors for FA

Raptors aren't there for troop killers (like Talons are for) they're for vehicles. The Heldrake would be another 40pts to scrounge for, doable though. I like have a potentially scoring unit and one that can easily take linebreaker though :/ but it would be another Armor for Ahriman haha. I will contemplate the drake. Thank you!

Want to ask point in TS? To take objectives (usually in cover, invul doesn't matter)? To kill marines (either in cover reducing Ap 3 effectiveness and battle cannon does this better) or just for a place to put Ahriman?

Thousand Sons just aren't that good at the moment and are really expensive. There sorcerer HAS to take Tzeentch powers (Sucky) and is just an expensive perils waiting to happen. I'd recommend getting rid of there guys and adding another marine unit. With dropping a helbrute you could take a massive 20 man unit to infiltrate with (Warlord trait) Ahriman to buff to hell and charge things. Double melta 20 man squad with CC weapons and pistols (Not marked) is a VERY scary prospect to most armies, especially gun line tau. If you like thousand sons throw all of Ahrimans powers on divination until you get forewarning for that 4++ but there are better powers.

I'd suggest giving Brutes twin linked auto cannons for transport popping/ flyer killing. Drop combi bolter from las squad and put combi flamer on flamer squad. I'd drop las cannon all together because its a single las cannon, its not game changing, and if you fire it your whole unit has to stay still and not fire at infantry (what they are good at) Maybe give them melta or plasma to preference. Maybe have mark of nurgle on Warp smith so a single bright/dark lance wont ruin his day.

My 2 cents

Lots of good points. I know Tsons are expensive and not great...at much at all. But I like trying to make horrible things competitive but it sucks that a 5 man squad of Tsons is Double a regular squad...I dislike burgle because everyone plays him :/ I'm trying to build a competitive list with some of the units people down on so often haha great 2 cents though I will look at the changes. This started as a Tsons theme then went Armor, no more reason for Tsons.


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I swapped some things.


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When I sit down and create CSM vs Tsons. My jaw drops. And Ahriman can't get Divination :/ Huron can!