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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 18:25:25
Subject: Ordinance barrage question
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Game rules questions: Ordinance barrage
If a wave serpent "jinks" does an ordinance barrage ignore its cover save?
The ordinance barrage says nothing about gaining the "ignores cover" special rule, it simply says "when determining if a model gets cover..."
The Jink is given regardless of direction of the shots.
Am I off base here in my interpretation of the rules?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 18:33:47
Subject: Re:Ordinance barrage question
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Executing Exarch
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There is a sub-forum called "You Make Da Call", which is where you'll get most response for a rules question.
Barrage does not totally negate Cover saves unless it is part of the weapon's rules. It circumvents many cover saves but not those given by: Area Terrain, Jink, Stealth / Shrouded, Wargear (Such as the Ork Kustom Force Field).
Ordnance has no additional bearing on cover saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 19:33:51
Subject: Ordinance barrage question
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Moved to YMDC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 19:39:45
Subject: Ordinance barrage question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Nebekkennezzer wrote:Game rules questions: Ordinance barrage
If a wave serpent "jinks" does an ordinance barrage ignore its cover save?
The ordinance barrage says nothing about gaining the "ignores cover" special rule, it simply says "when determining if a model gets cover..."
The Jink is given regardless of direction of the shots.
Am I off base here in my interpretation of the rules?
Barrage uses where the shot lands to determine LOS-based cover. So if the weapon dos not have the Ignore Cover special rule, you still get non- LOS-based cover.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 12:26:20
Subject: Ordinance barrage question
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Barrage itself does not ignore cover. It ignores most line of sight based covers (i.e. ruins) depending on where the blast lands but self-generated ones like stealth, shrouded, exhaust cloud, or jink are not removed.
However a lot of the barrage weapons that are actually used have ignores cover anyway. If it says ignores cover, it removes ALL cover including the previously mentioned self-generated cover saves (and area terrain)
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An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.
14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
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