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Hey all, I'm back with another Eldar list. This time it's a footdar list, heavy on firepower but slow in movement. Tell me what you think:

ELDAR GUNLINE (1496 pts) - 3RD REVISION
HQ: (100 pts)
Farseer - 100 points

Troops: (500pts)
10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Dire Avengers w/ Exarch w/ Shield of Grace, power axe and shimmershield - 170 points

Fast Attack: (180 pts)
Crimson Hunter Exarch - 180 points

Heavy Support: (616 pts)
3x Dark Reapers w/ 2x starshot missiles, Exarch w/ Night Vision, Fast Shot, EML and Flakk - 151 points

Wraithlord w/ scatter laser, bright lance, 2x flamers, ghostglaive - 165 points

Wraithknight w/ suncannon/scattershield and scatter laser - 300 points

Fortification: (100pts)
Aegis Defense Line w/ Quad-Gun - 100 points


~'A&'E

Seems pretty good, altough I would keep the guardian squads as small as possible or you might just get large blasted...There is a solution to stopping large blast which is spreading out but that makes your troops even more cumbersome. Especially without warlock or spiritseer conceals.

I was expecting reapers. Where are the reapers? :O They would work well, that's all. Especially with the wraithknights.

You should put 1 scatter laser for the wraithknight, it makes everything else twin-linked. HEAVEN.

Exarch on the Crimson Hunter will make it much more accurate, but if you can't afford 20 points then don't.

Shaving off all the extra guardians gives you 126 points to work with. Actually 130 points because you had some spare. You could either:

- Take 3 warlocks and exarch for the flyer
- Take another guardian squad and exarch for the flyer
- Take a small Reaper squad (with eml or tempest launcher, all good)
- Wait... your HS is filled :O Personally you have enough AT so scrap one of the wraithlords.
- That gives you a great 180 points to work with, maybe take a 10 man DA squad with shimmershield and power axe? Pair that with exarch on the flyer and you have a very nice army.

So,

100: Farseer

110: 10 Guardians w/ bright lance
110: 10 Guardians w/ bright lance
110: 10 Guardians w/ bright lance
160: 10 Dire Avengers w/ power axe and shimmershield

180: Crimson Hunter Exarch

120: 3 Dark Reapers w/ tempest launcher
180: Wraithlord w/ 2 EMLs
320: Wraithknight w/ suncannon, scattershield, starcannon and scatter laser

100: Aegis Defense Line w/ quad-gun

= 1490

10 points for you.

Thanks for the feedback, and sweet baby Emperor that list looks great. Plenty of AT, plus enough troops to grab objectives if it comes to that. I feel like it'd be fun to play the Relic mission with this list... I think with the extra 10 pts I'll get fast shot on the Reaper exarch. 3 blasts instead of 2 is always great. Can't thank you enough dude.




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REVISED LIST:

HQ: (100 pts)
Farseer - 100 points

Troops: (490 pts)
10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Guardians w/ bright lance platform - 110 points

10x Dire Avengers w/ Exarch w/ power axe and shimmershield - 160 points

Fast Attack: (180 pts)
Crimson Hunter Exarch - 180 points

Heavy Support: (630 pts)
3x Dark Reapers w/ Exarch w/ tempest launcher and Fast Shot - 130 points

Wraithlord w/ 2 EMLs - 180 points

Wraithknight w/ suncannon/scattershield, starcannon, and scatter laser - 320 points

Fortification: (100 pts)
Aegis Defense Line w/ Quad-Gun - 100 points


1500 points. Huge shout-out to IcyFireKnight!

Looks pretty good, just a couple of changes I would make.

EML's are a bit overcosted for what they do these days, so I would drop them off your lord and take either double lances, double scatter lasers or a scatter laser+starcannon. All of which have their merits, it really comes down to what you want. Also, take a ghostglaive if you have spare points, and always have 2 flamers on the wrists.

If you are taking a suncannon, why do you have 2 shoulder guns on the WK? You can only shoot two guns per turn, which will almost always be the suncannon and scatter laser to twin link it. Drop the starcannon.

The reapers need night vision so they can shoot first turn at full range and no cover boosting from the night. Three is a bit small, and I am not a huge fan of the tempest launcher and would go with S8 missiles for the whole squad so they can do AT or troop hunting. Either way, do take night fight, it is too cheap to leave at home.

The exarch should drop the axe for a sword or maul. Eldar have one big advantage in CC, and that is getting the first shot. In a challenge, you are best off going first and trying to force a wound on the enemy than go last and risk dying. T3 with a 3+/5++ is going to get rolled by most sarges, and short of TEQ you can cut em down well enough with the sword.

Wraithlord w/ 2x EMLs - 180 points

Wraithlord w/ 2x EMLs - 180 points

I'd take two squads of 3 Warwalkers. Much more bang for the bucks.

How about I the wraithlord with scatter laser + bright lance? Four S6 shots and a twin-linked S8 lance should work out ok. I will also add the flamers because they're FREE!

With regards to the war walker suggestion, I guess it comes down to the fact that I have the Wraithlord models already, and I don't want an almost $50 model sitting there unused... Thanks for the input, though!

I'll definitely be dropping the starcannon on the Wraithknight. I guess I overlooked the fact that he can only shoot two weapons!!

I think that's a good call with the Reapers. I have S5 AP3 shots already with the starswarms, so I think krak missile equivalents should do them well. I will also tag Night Vision onto the Exarch because he can take two powers.

Switching the power axe to a sword on the Avenger exarch.

So all in all, I'll end up with 1501 points. One point over, but the guys at my LGS tend to be lenient when it comes down to these things. Thank the Emperor I have a casual gaming group. Also, many thanks to Dr. Serling and wuestenfux for the advice.

Personally I just don't like dark reapers - their firepower isn't amazing and their defence is just terrible. If an enemy player can't kill 3 T3 models with his first turn shooting he's doing something wrong...

I'd take war walkers above them - they're tougher in defence, can battle focus and I'd argue have superior firepower against most targets.

Don't listen to that guy! Dark Reapers rule! It's not that hard to deploy them in a decent position so they don't get shot up first turn...even then with a solid 3+ armour save...or you could go for support weapon batteries as they are the same price as dark reapers (!!) but much harder to kill with normal guns (they're too tough to be killed by bolters and too cheap to be targetted by AT weapons) but whatever, they never move. Dark Reapers are pretty much really mobile now, which helps them a lot.

I do like power axe on the exarch, not so much the power sword since you're hardly ever wounding on a 5+..god Eldar are about as strong as spongebob...even the Exarchs don't go to the gym -.- Since it's the Exarch he shouldn't really be dying before he gets his attacks, and when he does, it's going to be a 3+, 3+, dead, against most things. He's pretty good in challenges too if you take Disarming Strike, hurts those random termies trying to slaughter you...With the power weapon, disarming strike and counter-attack you can say bye bye to that power fist guy who thinks he's so cool.

No do listen to me. I'd be happy to see a unit of dark reapers facing me with any of the lists I play - they would get one volley, then they're gone as they'd be the first things I'd gun down. It's just not enough for a 150 point unit.

Support batteries are great though - less killing power but they're not going anywhere save in assault so you'd get several turns of shooting.

I agree with doom mouse. Dark reapers look good, have good guns and shootings, but whenever their locked at...they die. Sadly. Loved them in old dex, don't use them in new. Support batteries are a good amount better. Just don't take the vibrio cannon. Either of the other ones is good.

ninjafiredragon wrote:
I agree with doom mouse. Dark reapers look good, have good guns and shootings, but whenever their locked at...they die. Sadly. Loved them in old dex, don't use them in new. Support batteries are a good amount better. Just don't take the vibrio cannon. Either of the other ones is good.

Dark Reapers are MEQ killers. But once they are targeted, they will die easily since there are no ablative wounds around.

Yeah, they die easily but that's why you deploy them out of sight so they can shoot what they need to shoot but out of LoS from the things that kill them. So for example you want them to be just around the corner of a building so they can see tactical marines or something but cannot be seen by devastators etc...They're mobile too, like I said, so they can hug the table edge, and anything that tries to assault them will be met by the rest of your army...I agree though, support batteries are extremely cheap, resilient and have nice guns, but dark reapers rape MEQs (which is pretty much 60% of the meta...) if you play them right.

I guess I'm pessimistic vs reapers just because they don't run well with my lists... Since i take aggressive mechdar.