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I had someone state that since a barrage weapons cover save is always taken from the center of the template, that his defensive grenades would give him a cover save for being within 8" of the shooting unit. (My shot was from a whirlwind using Str 5 AP 4 shot all the way across the board at fire warriors.) Defensive grenades say from the unit on them, but he argued my shooting comes as from the center of the template effectively making my unit the hole in the template. Who was right?

You measure the from the firing unit. So the grenades work however you work out save by from the center of the blast so you might not have a save for stealth to improve (unless you are in area terrain) ... so they'll get a 6+ save and maybe a better save if they're lucky

Barrage (pg 34) says to use the center hole to determine if the unit is allowed a cover save, not that the shooting comes from the center hole. Barrage weapons do not have the Ignores Cover special rule universally.

In this case, defensive grenades do not give a cover save, they modify the existing one by granting Stealth if: they are within 8" of the unit firing at them (pg 62).

If the firing vehicle is not within 8", then Stealth is never granted. Therefore, if the unit with Defensive Grenades wouldn't normally get a Cover Save, they are not getting one now via Stealth.

As an aside, remember Defensive Grenades will not grant Stealth if the unit has Gone to Ground. So no +1 for GtGand another +1 for Defensive Grenades.

Barrage (pg 34) says to use the center hole to determine if the unit is allowed a cover save...

Do defensive grenades grant or enhance the cover save?

 DeathReaper wrote:
Barrage (pg 34) says to use the center hole to determine if the unit is allowed a cover save...

Do defensive grenades grant or enhance the cover save?

It gives you stealth if you are 8" away from the firing unit. Stealth gives a unit a +1 to their cover save or 6+ coversave if they have none.

If the unit is firing within 8" the unit has stealth (so long as they don't go to ground), so has stealth and there for at least a 6+ cover save.
Cover for the unit is then worked out from the center of the blast. So if the unit is in area terrain (or the center scatters behind a wall) then you be able to improve that save by one with stealth. If not then you still get a 6+ (better then nothing)

Barrage rules explicitly says that it counts as if the shot comes from the center of the blast and not from the firing models.

Defensive Grenades gives you Stealth if you're within 8" of the unit firing at them. It doesnt say anything about the shots.

This means that the Unit firing at them isnt within 8" of them, even though their shots counts as coming from inside them.

In order to give you Stealth from Barrage it would have to read something like "From Shots fired from within 8" you get Stealth".