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Chaos Dwarfs 2400pts

Lords
Level 4 sorcerer prophet with chalice of blood, enchanted shield and luckstone = 360pts

Heroes
Daemonsmith with dispel scroll = 120pts
Level 2 Daemonsmith = 130pts
Infernal castellan BSB with shield, talisman of preservation and dawnstone = 202pts

Core
30 chaos dwarf infernal guard with hailshot blunderbuss’ and full command = 572pts
20 hobgoblin cutthroats with bows and full command = 122pts
20 hobgoblin cutthroats with bows and full command = 122pts

Special
Magma cannon = 145pts
Magma cannon = 145pts
Deathshrieker rocket Launcher = 100pts
Deathshrieker rocket Launcher = 100pts

Rare
Kdaii destroyer = 325pts
Hellcannon = 210pts

=2653pts

I have 253pts to drop and don't know where to start! does the destroyer fit the theme? if not maybe swap it for another magma cannon/ hellcannon and work on from there.
Any advice would be appreciated



P.S I'm kinda set on using at least one unit of hobbos as I have the models and enjoy painting them
Thanks!

1 unit of hobgoblins and the level 2 daemonsmith,

good idea, do you think that the warmachines can deal with only one daemonsmith?

You can also put your level 4 there if your stuck, although if your against using a wardsave on your sorcerer atleast grab him an earthing rod, also what lores are you taking? Be very careful with your K'daai as he doesn't fit in the army theme and if you sit him back with your gunline you could kill yourself with no loss to your opponent if you roll poorly, and if he goes forward he'll be doing it unsupported due to him being so much faster then everything else in your list


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I'm also not a fan of blunderbuss' not enough bang for your buck in my opinion due to the ridiculous price and even more ridiculously poor range

Ceann Fine wrote:
You can also put your level 4 there if your stuck, although if your against using a wardsave on your sorcerer atleast grab him an earthing rod, also what lores are you taking? Be very careful with your K'daai as he doesn't fit in the army theme and if you sit him back with your gunline you could kill yourself with no loss to your opponent if you roll poorly, and if he goes forward he'll be doing it unsupported due to him being so much faster then everything else in your list


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I'm also not a fan of blunderbuss' not enough bang for your buck in my opinion due to the ridiculous price and even more ridiculously poor range

A) Army theme? This is a tourney list. We play to win. A Destroyer can single handedly run over armies if you don't kill it ASAP, which is easier said than done, so you take him.

B) Fireglaives are generally the better option due to the range and being halberds.

As for the one daemonsmith, I dunno. I don't play the army, I only go by what I see played in this case.

You only need two casters at most at this level. I think the blunderbusses are a bad idea, but I think most shooting in 8th is a bad idea for tourney play ( it doesn't work that well, and is way over costed)

 thedarkavenger wrote:

Ceann Fine wrote:
You can also put your level 4 there if your stuck, although if your against using a wardsave on your sorcerer atleast grab him an earthing rod, also what lores are you taking? Be very careful with your K'daai as he doesn't fit in the army theme and if you sit him back with your gunline you could kill yourself with no loss to your opponent if you roll poorly, and if he goes forward he'll be doing it unsupported due to him being so much faster then everything else in your list


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I'm also not a fan of blunderbuss' not enough bang for your buck in my opinion due to the ridiculous price and even more ridiculously poor range

A) Army theme? This is a tourney list. We play to win. A Destroyer can single handedly run over armies if you don't kill it ASAP, which is easier said than done, so you take him.

B) Fireglaives are generally the better option due to the range and being halberds.

As for the one daemonsmith, I dunno. I don't play the army, I only go by what I see played in this case.

All I meant by theme is that its a gunline list and without wolf riders or bull centaurs the only thing you have moving forward is the K'daai, which if alone is much less of a threat

Ceann Fine wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

Ceann Fine wrote:
You can also put your level 4 there if your stuck, although if your against using a wardsave on your sorcerer atleast grab him an earthing rod, also what lores are you taking? Be very careful with your K'daai as he doesn't fit in the army theme and if you sit him back with your gunline you could kill yourself with no loss to your opponent if you roll poorly, and if he goes forward he'll be doing it unsupported due to him being so much faster then everything else in your list


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I'm also not a fan of blunderbuss' not enough bang for your buck in my opinion due to the ridiculous price and even more ridiculously poor range

A) Army theme? This is a tourney list. We play to win. A Destroyer can single handedly run over armies if you don't kill it ASAP, which is easier said than done, so you take him.

B) Fireglaives are generally the better option due to the range and being halberds.

As for the one daemonsmith, I dunno. I don't play the army, I only go by what I see played in this case.

All I meant by theme is that its a gunline list and without wolf riders or bull centaurs the only thing you have moving forward is the K'daai, which if alone is much less of a threat

It's the standard Chaos Dwarf competitive list. The Destroyer doesn't really need support against 95% of the rest of Warhammer.