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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 20:52:08
Subject: Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Looking through my ork codex I found myself comparing fast attack options. In another thread I asked about what Orks have via Anti-tank and Deffkoptas with TL Rokkits came up a number of times in the thread. Looking over the fast attack slots, I also noticed that warbuggies can also take TL Rokkits but for about 5-10ppm less (can't recall exact different atm).
So really, I have to wonder which people think is better and why?
Deffkoptas are 2W Jetbikes
Buggies are 2HP AV10 Fast Vehicles
While AV 10 is weak for armor, my local meta tends to have some difficulty with them short of pointing true anti-tank shots at them. Also, vehicles are fearless (in a sense) so I wouldn't have to worry about them breaking after 1-2 die.
My Deffkoptas on the other hand draw bolter fire and tend to not last long. Anti-tank shots ignore them.
Even with these observations, I'm not completely sold on jumping in and getting buggies.
What do people think of buggies over koptas for TL Rokkits and anti-tank?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 21:01:05
Subject: Re:Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Mutating Changebringer
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'Koptaz all the way. They can start in reserve and outflank. They are faster. Have hit and run.
They can take buzzsaws and bombs. The have 2 wounds at toughness 5 so lascannons cant instant death them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 21:15:00
Subject: Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Yeah I would have to say koptas. 2 wounds with jink save beats AV10 2HP all day
Plus with that outflanking maneuver you can use them to deliver all sorts of nastiniss via a bikerboss.
I admit if the stats werent a factor, and we were going on just look and feel, I would rock buggies all day. Nothing like a mad max army with looted wagons and buggies.
But until that new codex comes out and beefs up the buggy, I'd say the koptas are the winner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 00:14:15
Subject: Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Buggies are an interesting alternative but they still die just as easy as deffkoptas, they just lack the leadership thing. Infantry guns can still glance them to death fairly easy.
Every time i bring deffkoptas they die after my initial scout + move = dead vehicle. Ive tried just being sneaky with them, unless they avoid the table till turn 3 or something they get shot down instantly after they pop something when they appear.
Buggies, on the other hand, cant even do that much unless your opponent ignores them. 12" move + 24" rokkit range means unless he deployed close up you wont have range of any vehicles you give a hoot about popping that early. Lowly transports arent a problem, its the gunboats you want.
Would be hilarious if buggies had reinforced rams instead of wartrakks to reroll danger tests. Imagine the chaos if you could add 9 more Tankshocking models to a wagon list lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 04:37:13
Subject: Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Deffrolla buggies would be fun
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 04:50:49
Subject: Ork Deffkoptas or Warbuggies?
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Screamin' Stormboy
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Copters, outflank, rokkits
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Wakatipu40k
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