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Recently, Szarekh has become my favorite character in all of 40k fluff. This led me to wonder: what is his power level? I'm just wondering how powerful he is as a character when compared to other big-shot characters in 40k such as Horus, Emprah, etc.


What we know:
1. King of ALL Necrons.
2. Defeated both Old Ones and C'tan.


Judging by those two factors above, he may hold the most power as a single being in the entire 40k background. What do you think?

Dunno. If the guy's got a resume, he's certainly not telling.

Judging by those two factors above, he may hold the most power as a single being in the entire 40k background. What do you think?

I think your line of reasoning is unimpressive
We know his power level and that of his personal retinue - he is matched with commander Dante of the Blood Angels. Immense power of former Necron empire is no longer his to command. And when it was, it was due to command protocols. And before that, he was one (though senior) of the three overall rulers of Necrons, part of a long-established, well, establishment, and thus there is no need to assume he had some exceptional personal power.
So, take generic Phaeron and put some unspecified butreasonably powers of space-time manipulation on him, and we get Silent King.

I'd say it's over 9000.

But he is not the invincible pirate king and there for quite inferior to thaszar.

 Sturmtruppen wrote:
I'd say it's over 9000.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.

 Zaki66 wrote:
Recently, Szarekh has become my favorite character in all of 40k fluff. This led me to wonder: what is his power level? I'm just wondering how powerful he is as a character when compared to other big-shot characters in 40k such as Horus, Emprah, etc.


What we know:
1. King of ALL Necrons.
2. Defeated both Old Ones and C'tan.


Judging by those two factors above, he may hold the most power as a single being in the entire 40k background. What do you think?

Are you under the impression that he defeated the Old Ones and the C'tan by himself, alone and unaided?

Come on man. He's no Draigo.

The Silent King on itself might be a souped up overlord with a better body, but his powers are not rivalling any Close Combat Monster.

Altough, in game terms i would see him having T6 4 to 5 wounds, EW, 2+/3++/3++ something that is almost indestructable.
His strength would be more as a much meaner Immothek, bolstering Necrons with his presence and access to some forgotten technologies, also having the Praetorians at discount price and as troops. Some insane Staff Weapons of Ancient times...

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Zaki66 wrote:
Recently, Szarekh has become my favorite character in all of 40k fluff. This led me to wonder: what is his power level? I'm just wondering how powerful he is as a character when compared to other big-shot characters in 40k such as Horus, Emprah, etc.


What we know:
1. King of ALL Necrons.
2. Defeated both Old Ones and C'tan.


Judging by those two factors above, he may hold the most power as a single being in the entire 40k background. What do you think?

Are you under the impression that he defeated the Old Ones and the C'tan by himself, alone and unaided?

Come on man. He's no Draigo.

I wasn't implying that he defeated them by himself but rather was skilled enough as a military strategist to do so.

Well first of all, he was utterly reamed by the Old Ones, which is why the C'tan were necessary in the first place.

He only defeated the C'tan because he was at the helm of the most powerful army in the galaxy and the C'tan were licking their wounds from the war with the Old Ones. Yet, the war was still so costly that after winning the Necrons were forced into hibernation.

I'm not sure what you mean by "power" anymore. Do you mean personal power? Because personally we have no reason to see him as any more than a particularly powerful Necron Overlord. Or in terms of overall military and political power? When he had full sway over the entire Necron species he was the most powerful individual in the galaxy, sure, but he no longer does. Imotekh is militarily more powerful than he is.

On first thought I said hell he would be another of the "Just as planned" characters like the Deceiver or Tzeentch, but then I realized that he got so badly screwed up by the Deceiver that he has no right to join the party. Instead I belive he should have had some characterisc boosting to his own troops like Fearless on every necron or super reanimation protocols. Now I belive he's just a shadow of a great politician and kind of every necron hates him for having transformed them into machines and therefore no more super boost. But hell he's the oldest "living" thing in the universe, show some respect, even the dark gods are teenagers to his eyes, some respect for the galaxy grandpa! I belive that now his power relies in knowledge: he has seen every single corner of the universe and extra plus he had 60 millions year to think about what he saw, Furthermore to every fan of the Emprah, remeber that Eldar may have Blackstone fortresses but the Necrons have the sunkiller stellar map. Who needs to burn all the worlds to reach the Emprah (fool Abbadon, fooler Nids), just let the sun go supernova with a click and enjoy the show of the Empire without Astronomicon with a bag of pop corns

His power level is OVER 40,000!!!!!

Sorry, couldn't resist

He is probably about as strong as a... REGULAR OVERLORD!!!

They use the same royal bodies, he would probably have some bling though.

This seems like an answer you won't ever really find a conclusion on.

The King has as many resources available to him as he decided he wanted at the point he disbanded the Command Protocols and went adrift.

We know that as of IA 12, a deranged flayer-Overlord (Who may be the same one that killed the C'tan behind the flayer curse in the first place) can, by himself, take on a dreadnought and chapter master of the Minotaurs chapter - the best-equipped marine chapter of the entire Imperium. I'll go ahead and say my recollection isn't spot-on, but he transported with 30 terminators, two dreadnaughts, and Moloc himself - but I only recall the Overlord taking on both and, if not for a stab from behind after easily going toe to toe with Moloc and winning, wiped both opponents out with ease.

Having said that - this was without any technological shenanigans other than the weaponry and armor they used. No space-time manipulation, no entropic decay of armor, etc.

Barring that necron fleets are vastly superior and the Silent King would at the very least have his own flagship, he also knows where all the resources of his race are, barring any movement made by awakening tomb worlds. They have technology that can teleport planets, kill the warp, and manipulate time with a degree of finesse.

The Necrons are really as much an "end of the world" threat as you want. They have the technology to kill everyone and everything. I personally believe his fear about the Tyranids was that they would eliminate all life, leaving nothing for the race to hopefully ever reverse soul-forge themselves into, to become whole again - (whether or not they could ever reclaim their souls).

since he's just in the fluff and no in-game stats who knows ....

"The Silent King on itself might be a souped up overlord with a better body, but his powers are not rivalling any Close Combat Monster. "

Make him Initiative 5 and a warscythe that hits on I5 and lets see what happens lul.

I doubt they will ever bring him on the table top, but by comparison he shouldn't have a better stat line / power than an old school nightbringer .... before c'tan were made into pokemon Matt Ward ...

We haven't the slightest idea except he'd probably have more bling than any Phaeron, Overlord, Nemesor, Cryptek, or Vargard.

I'm talking a body with so much shiny bling that he could replicate a solar pulse whenever light shines on him.

Well, fluff-wise, we've seen at least one battle with him between his army and Dante's. It got kinda interupted though and didn't really give us many specific details.

Actually, Imotekh probably wields more power politically. Szarekh, after he told the Necrons to sleep destroyed his command codes that gave him authority and great influence over the Necron Dynasties. So, while he may physically be pretty strong and most likely commands a sizable army he still isn't as powerful as Imotekh.

Well, fluff-wise, we've seen at least one battle with him between his army and Dante's. It got kinda interupted though and didn't really give us many specific details.

More please.

 Ratius wrote:

Well, fluff-wise, we've seen at least one battle with him between his army and Dante's. It got kinda interupted though and didn't really give us many specific details.

More please.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gehenna_Campaign


Interestingly enough, the Blood Angels codex came out BEFORE the Necron 5th edition codex (and the revamping of the necrons), causing tons of players to wonder what the heck was up with this battle and why this Silent King guy was so unlike other necrons when they first read it in the BA codex

Remembering that Orikan's former power was equivalent (on tabletop) to a Pokec'tan, I'd assume that perhaps The Silent King's necron body was probably the closest to his former glory and power and would probably translate to something like S6 T6 on the tabletop... with an Uberstaffscythe, 2+/3++ RP, EL, and EW. With Knockdown and Smash. Just because.