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So my brother is laying BA, and fr a feast of blades qualifier tournament he was thinking about a veteran list. Vanguard to be precise.
Here's how it looks, and is this even a romottly good startegy? I haven't seen many veteran lists like this....
1850 points

Hq
Astoroth the grim

Troop
3 death company
3death company
3 death company
3 death company
3 death company
3 death company
All with bolt guns

FA
10 vanguard veterans, one model has PF, And SS. (not Sargent because he would just get challenged out he said.)
10 vanguard veterans, one model has PF, and SS
5 vanguard veterans, one model has PF, and SS.

Heavy support
Stormraven, MM PC
Dreadnought, MM

Plan: all veterans go into combat squads, ginning him effectively 5 5 man squads of them. astorath and dred ride in raven, for some AT, and to let astorath do his thing. Astorath is their for two resonas, giving veterans the thing on half chance, and ,ultiple DC squads.

Is this even romottly viable?

Soooooooo much VVS hate on dakka. Not a good place to ask lol. I love it though.

Soooooo much work to do with this.

1. Death company are not known for their shooting so don't bother with boltguns

2. MSU Death company are too frail and will give up first blood easy.

3. Never put stuff in a stormraven, especially a dread. This turns your already expensive flier into an even more expensive coffin for those inside. All it takes is one good quad gun, riptide or many FW things if your tournament allows them. If you survive you will need to hover to drop off the dread and astorath unless you drop them with skies of blood or whatever the rule is called

4. The vanguard will need something to make them useful. Just footslogging them upboard will get then killed or kited out. They need jump packs for mobility and to take advantage of their assault after coming from reserves rule which is the majority of what you pay for with them.

Umm, that is a pretty terrible list.

Death company cannot score and there is no way that list is going to be tabling enemies.

Vanguard Vets need Jump Packs.

Storm Raven transport capacity is just a trap.

Yeah, there really aren't any redeeming qualities about this list.

Ok sorry veterans have packs. Thought it was obvoise... Sorry.
Why is their so much transport raven hate? It's a good way to let the dead and astorath get in combat to whatever the want. And the hope was that very one would be to Reid up in al the assult or shoot the raven down when it hovers.

Would it be better to have the dc in bigger squads? Btw reminder not my list, just posting to help my bro.

And he said it was a wipe or be wiped list. (shrug)

Not my playing style personally, but whatever.

Well the raven if it gets shot down by intercepter has just turned into the most expensive coffin ever.

When it goes into hover mode it will be destroyed very quickly. And for the points you are better off taking a pod.

The death company will be dealing very little death and recieving a whole bunch of it. Increase their numbers. Give them hitting power. Or don't bother

So what make them 3 6 man squads? Of like 3 5 man squads, with like a PS in their? Then a dread in pod... And what to do with astorath? Maybe drop him, and make the DC into like one 20 man squad? Then get a different hq? What do you think?

VVS get hate on Dakka because they are terrible. They cost way too many pts/wound.

The VVS squads will be cleaned up by the time the foot slogging DC arrive at the scene.

And you have to table to win. Bad plan.

Oks well tell him What all you guys said.
Thnaks,
Ninja

I really love how the VVs work, but as everyone else said they are way too expensive, and even though the BA ones are better they still seem too niche to have in a list. I would love to play them in casual games though. : D

The Death company would also work vastly better in bigger squads.