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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 03:07:55
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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So my friend said that his daemon prince of tzeentch can have a 3++, but I do not believe this because it states in the csm codex at the daemon prince part: Must take; -Daemon of Khorne, -Daemon of Tzeentch, etc. The Mark of Tzeentch is different to the Daemon of Tzeentch because the mark gives +1 to his invunerable save but the daemon of tzeentch upgrade does not. Can a daemon prince of tzeentch have a 3++ invul or not? I believe not, what is your verdict?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 03:32:59
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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No 3++ Not sure how your friend is getting a 4++ to upgrade either, CSM DP has the 5++ that daemons get normally. Daemon of Tzeench gains Hatred (Daemons of Nurgle) and reroll saving throws of 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 03:38:55
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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I believe the Aura of Dark Glory gives a 4++, but I don't recall what Daemon of Tzeentch does besides make him a psyker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 03:41:59
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Nope, Aura is 5++, Sigil of Corruption is 4++ but DP cannot take special issue wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 03:47:00
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Technically he can get a 3++. It does take Daemon Allies and Grimiore of True Names. Other than that, there isn't a way for the Daemon Prince to get a 3++.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 04:24:17
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Which is probably what he's getting confused with. Chaos Demons demon princes can get a 3++, but CSM demon princes can't.
In fact, the CSM demon prince of tzeentch doesn't even have a 4++, he's stuck at 5 with the rest of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 05:03:37
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Deadly Dire Avenger
New Zealand
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Thank you!!!!!! He said that the 'daemon of...' and 'Mark of...' are linked but there isnt anything in the codex. So 5++ is the best he can get!!!!!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/10 05:04:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/10 05:11:34
Subject: CSM Daemon Prince Question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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From the CSM codex, yes.
Demon of Tzeentch (demon princes can't take marks) comes with the same 5++ that all demon princes do, but they get to reroll failed saves (armor or invul) of a 1. So it's sort of like they have a 4++, but not actually.
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