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Everytime I play a game in the store this argument comes up,
I can see where the confusion comes in but everyone is always arguing it

supporting fire... If I have a squad of 10 fire warriors
and 4 of them are within the 6" of a unit being charged
the whole unit gets to support fire?
Or just the 4 models?

The rule is worded weird. It is all models (with the rule) in a unit, if that unit is within 6". In your example, all 10 can fire.

That is what I said,
And every time it comes up, So far most are convinced that is correct, but nobody that doesn't play tau wants to except that

Only a single model has to be within 6" to satisfy the rule. It is then all models WITH that rule in the unit that then get to fire

Sounds like they are mixing the rules for who gets to shoot (range limitations) with whether a unit is allowed to provide support overwatch fire (at least one model in unit is within 6").

These are two different things.

The supporting fire rule applies to the unit. If the unit has 1 model within 6" then you move to the rules for firing overwatch as the unit is now capable of providing that support.

Those rules defined in overwatch use the rules for shooting which then defines which individual models in a unit may shoot. This is different from the 6" rule and is limited by the range of their weapons.

Wording is a bit funky.

Unit is charged.
Any model with the Supporting Fire special rule within a unit that is within 6" gets to fire Overwatch. The models themselves do not have to be within 6".

They worded the rule in such a strange manner so that Battle Bros did not get to provide Supporting Fire. We couldn't have an Autarch in a Fire Warrior Squad shooting his Fusion Blaster (or whatever he can get). Tau only!

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
They worded the rule in such a strange manner so that Battle Bros did not get to provide Supporting Fire. We couldn't have an Autarch in a Fire Warrior Squad shooting his Fusion Blaster (or whatever he can get). Tau only!

Exactly, hence they specified "all friendly models with this special rule..." to avoid BBs getting to benefit. Though, the wording does not stop the BB Tau from Supporting fire a nearby charged Eldar squad.

Is that true^^?
They can still support fire for a BB unit?

Yes, you can use Supporting Fire if a friendly unit within 6" gets charged.
Friendly unit means one of your own army or a Battle Brother.

And people above are right, it's worded in such a 'weird' way to prevent BB-IC's from joining Fire Warriors and assisting in the Supporting Fire: Only models with the rule can shoot!

If the rest of the units overwatches for a different units can the BB IC overwatch for the unit?

 megatrons2nd wrote:
If the rest of the units overwatches for a different units can the BB IC overwatch for the unit?

No, the unit would have already fired its Overwatch.

I look at it as an extra check just before a normal shooting attack (which it is, really). So it follows as such:

1) A nearby unit got charged. Do I have a model with Supporting Fire within 6"? If yes, all models that have Supporting Fire in that model's unit may fire Overwatch.
2) Onto the Shooting attack that results. Check line of sight.
3) Then check actual range (nothing to do with the original 6").

 Super Ready wrote:
I look at it as an extra check just before a normal shooting attack (which it is, really). So it follows as such:

1) A nearby unit got charged. Do I have a model with Supporting Fire within 6"? If yes, all models that have Supporting Fire in that model's unit may fire Overwatch.
2) Onto the Shooting attack that results. Check line of sight.
3) Then check actual range (nothing to do with the original 6").

You don't need a model with SF to be within 6", just a model from the unit.

Ooh, really? Seems a bit skiwiff, but hey, rules is rules. Thanks for the correction.

 Super Ready wrote:
Ooh, really? Seems a bit skiwiff,...

It's really not. If the unit is within 6", then all models with Supporting Fire in the unit get to use it. It's that simple.