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So where did he go? I have the miniature but no rules. He isn't in the Chaos Space Marine book , neither the imperial guard or the Dark Angels book. Have I gone mad? Where is my favorite character?!?

There are no current rules to cover Cypher. There was a ruleset written in Spain for an event, but not knowing Spanish, I can't translate.

Well thanks for the information. I am utterly confused by GW......

It's quite simple. GW stopped making rules for a model. Sometimes it happens.

The last time that I saw GW-published rules for Cypher was the 2nd ed chaos codex. Dunno if he was in the the 3rd ed codex.

He was in a 3rd ed chaos codex - CSM had TWO codices in 3rd ed - one vastly superior and overpowered, full of options no-one used (it seemed every csm army was a 4 HS/0 FA Iron Warriors army).
Even if they were painted red, or green or pink or whatever.

Special characters come and go, I don't think there are any codecies that have not lost a character at some point.

Yup.

Minor characters come and go.
The big mary-sues stay and their stories just get more preposterous.

And then bigger lamer heroes come in and have to upstage them. Like two kids in the schoolyard.

"Oh yeah, I falcon punched an avatar!"
"Oh yeah? I carved my initials into Mortarion's still-beating heart. Mortarion. Old pus n' guts himself. Top that."

" ... Dude?"
"Uh yeah?"
"That's kinda gross."

The model is still available. At least that's something.

If you want to use him just make a house rule or ask your opponent if you can use the last official rules set.

 chromedog wrote:
He was in a 3rd ed chaos codex - CSM had TWO codices in 3rd ed - one vastly superior and overpowered, full of options no-one used (it seemed every csm army was a 4 HS/0 FA Iron Warriors army).
Even if they were painted red, or green or pink or whatever.

And yet even those options no one used is still better then the current codex.

Yep, not since the 3rd ed. chaos codex has cypher had rules. But it happens all the time. I would like rules for veteran scout sergeant naaman, but that didn't happen. So when I play some fun games with my friends I will ask to use the old rules.

P.S. You can always hope for a fallen supplement. Vetock wants to do it. Keep your fingers crossed.

Yep, plenty of characters that have fallen by the wayside. *Usually* it's because of a combination of the model being noticeably bad or outdated, and the character not being that popular (popular characters like Dante or Abaddon would cause too much uproar if they suddenly didn't have special characters, despite the models being ancient).

Other characters that no longer have their own rules, and many of which are no longer even sold:
Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant Naaman, a Scout Sergeant
Crimson Fists Captain Cortez (my god was that model ugly, even at the time)
Chaos Marines Doomrider, the biker... not sure why he didn't stick around
Orks' Makari, the Gretchin standard bearer that used to hang around with Ghazzy

I do miss Naaman. There are rumors of a Fallen supplement, which would almost require Cypher, IMO.

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 Super Ready wrote:
Yep, plenty of characters that have fallen by the wayside. *Usually* it's because of a combination of the model being noticeably bad or outdated, and the character not being that popular (popular characters like Dante or Abaddon would cause too much uproar if they suddenly didn't have special characters, despite the models being ancient).

Other characters that no longer have their own rules, and many of which are no longer even sold:
Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant Naaman, a Scout Sergeant
Crimson Fists Captain Cortez (my god was that model ugly, even at the time)
Chaos Marines Doomrider, the biker... not sure why he didn't stick around
Orks' Makari, the Gretchin standard bearer that used to hang around with Ghazzy

They just need to redo models to make their characters look better

This

Vs.

plus I don't think GW liked having a cocaine Spokesmen for a model, but he should still be around because DADADADAADA DOOMMMMRIDER!!!!

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
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(as far as I can tell)

WS 7 BS 8 S 5 T5 W 3 I 7 A 3 Ld 10 Sv 2+

Wargear
Artificier armor
Sniper Bolt Pistol
Sniper Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades, Krak grenades

Str: User AP 3 Instant Death Melee weapon

Special Rules
Independent Character
Fleet of Foot
Eternal Warrior




(I don't know any spanish)

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
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(as far as I can tell)

WS 7 BS 8 S 5 T5 W 3 I 7 A 3 Ld 10 Sv 2+

Wargear
Artificier armor
Sniper Bolt Pistol
Sniper Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades, Krak grenades

Str: User AP 3 Instant Death Melee weapon

Special Rules
Independent Character
Fleet of Foot
Eternal Warrior




(I don't know any spanish)

Pretty much what I figured. Hit & Run is also in there I think. I was thinking the pistols were master-crafted. Pity that Gunslinger wasn't added...

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
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(as far as I can tell)

WS 7 BS 8 S 5 T5 W 3 I 7 A 3 Ld 10 Sv 2+

Wargear
Artificier armor
Sniper Bolt Pistol
Sniper Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades, Krak grenades

Str: User AP 3 Instant Death Melee weapon

Special Rules
Independent Character
Fleet of Foot
Eternal Warrior




(I don't know any spanish)

Pretty much what I figured. Hit & Run is also in there I think. I was thinking the pistols were master-crafted. Pity that Gunslinger wasn't added...

I wouldn't be surprised if there was also GS.

Gunslinger applies simply by having two pistols - it's not a separate rule the model has to have but one that applies to all infantry.

There was a 4 th ed white dwarf with cypher in it, he had a bs 9 or 10 master crafted pistols, his cc attacks ignored armor, 2+ save and if he lost his last would roll 3d6, if the result was 4+ he was removed but didn't count as a casualty. He could be brought with a guard or chaos army.

I wanna get the model for cypher just in case the fallen supplement does drop and he is in it. (I will also convert up a veteran sergeant naaman for fun also)