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Hi all, looking for seom feedback on below list please. Is there anyhting obviously inefficient or useless?

HQ
Lord, MON, black mace, sigil, bike – 170

Troops
7x PM, 2x plasma, rhino - 233
7x PM, 2x plasma, rhino – 233
13x cultists, 8xag - 70
13x cultists, 8xag - 70

Elite
3x terminators, 3x multi - 105

Fast
Heldrake - 170
3x Bike, MoN, melta -98

Heavy
Vindicator - 120
5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115
5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115

1499

Terminators deep strike, cultists hide in cover/maybe start in reserve.


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I think it's a pretty mean list. You might combine the cultists into one big blob to be the anvil for your bike hammer. Heavy mech lists could give you some trouble but I've seen very few of those this edition.

My personal preference is maybe swap the lord for a lvl three sorceror on a bike for telepathy schenanigans but that's just me. Kudos for sticking to the Nurgle theme too!

I agree with the above poster about the sorcerer. Its a pretty good list as every unit you've taken are effective. I'd also take the cultists as one big blob. Maybe try and sqeeze a few more in there. Also, taking 2 more bikes and another melta gun would help it be more effective. Maybe even a power axe. I'd drop one of the plague marine squads personally. I love PM but they are just too expensive to take a lot of them.

I'd consider dropping the lord and taking Typhus instead, he's a psyker and he makes your cultists plague zombies. 26 cultists with slow and purposeful, feel no pain and fearless aint nothing to funk with.

Sorc with MoN does not unlock pm as troops.

I'd also try and get some more bikes in that unit to make sure that Black Mace gets where it needs to be. I agree with swapping a PM squad for some CSM which could free up some points. Or perhaps drop one of the Heavy Support units. It depends upon how much you know about what you might be facing though.

I hate to say it but you might want to drop the terminators or the vindicator to add to the bike squad. A beefed out bike squad with a psyker and mark of nurgle would be tough as nails (especially with the shrouded telepathy power). I think it'd be worth it to take nurgle marked marines over PM's to build the list around the bikes. I'll crunch some numbers tomorrow.

Cheers all, not sure I fancy Sorc (No PM as troops) or Typhus (Expensive and takes away bike lord threat) but agree that more bikes might be a good idea.

Thinking about obliterators too, but cant bring myself to buy the models, theyre not cheap and i think just look terrible..

How about this?
Chaos Lord- MoN, Combi-plasma/melta, Melta Bombs, Sigil, Black Mace
170

Terminators x3, x3 combi melta
112

Plague Marines (same loadout) x2
233+233

26 cultists, MoN
160

Bikers, 4 bikers, MoN, VotLW, x2 Melta, champ with claw (x2)
180+180

Havocs, x4 autocannons (x2)
115+115
Total: 1498
The cultists can be shoved at your opponents line while the plagues race to objectives and hold them. Havoc a provide long range support while bikers race up and mess ish up.

My tweaking left me at this for now, c&c welcome:

HQ

Lord – 170
MoN
BM
Sigil
Bike

Troops

10x CSM – 205
2x Plasma gun
Rhino

7x PM – 233
2x plasma
Rhino

17x Cultists, 8xag – 86


Elite

3x Terminators – 110
3x combi -

Fast

Heldrake – 170

6x Bike – 130
MoN – 36
Melta – 10

Heavy

Vind - 120

5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115

5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115

I think you have a lot of good options included but the list lacks a direction. For instance bikes, heldrakes, vindicators, and plague marines are all great choices. But when you only include one of each your cohesion turns out all haphazard. Two vindicators or heldrakes is a terrifying proposition at this points level. One is little more than a nuisance that's going to be gunned down quickly.

I would ditch the mace from the Chaos Lord, it is AP4 so only good for mashing xenos. I would take the burning brand instead and you have a nasty flamer template which has a threat range of 32". Throw a power fist onto the Lord, he hs T6 so should survive any attacks before hand. If not an axe will do and then melta bombs.

If you drop the Cultists down to 15 you could switch those CSM to Plague Marines, though really you only need units of 5 as having any more only adds points and gives nothing else.

If you are interested this is a Death Guard list I wrote a few weeks ago, it is at 2k though so you would have to do some chopping: http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2013/08/army-lists-chaos-space-marines-death.html

Thanks, i think you're right about the black mace and 5x man squads of PM list looks appealing:

HQ

Lord – (185)
MoN
PF
BBoS
Sigil
Bike
Blight

Troops

5x PM – (185)
2x plasma
Rhino

5x PM – (185)
2x plasma
Rhino

5x PM – (150)
2x Plasma

25x cultists - (125)
15 x autogun

Fast

Heldrake – 170

5x Bike – (150)
MoN
Melta

Heavy

Vind - 120

5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115

5xHavocs, 4x Autocannon - 115

1500

Vind could be swapped for a 3x man termicide unit.

Ok, looking better, but why do you need 25 Cultists for? They are really only going to be holding an objective, so I would cut them down to 10 strong.