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This has come up a few times while playing at my FLGS, and it has come lots of time to a die decision so I decided to put it up here in dakka. The question is simple when you have a wound pool allocated to your IC/C do you have to roll all the LoSs at once or just like wound allocation attempt to save them 1 by 1 until the model dies.

It might be cheap but if you get say 5 wounds and your next closes model is a guy with multiple wounds or even better with a better save is it cheating to keep rolling until you fail 1-2 wounds and then roll the LoSs?

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With characters you have to use the mixed save method. so that means:

allocate a wound
take saves
reduce wounds/remove model

This would be done one at a time, and for each wound the controlling player would have the choice of taking the save or making a LOS attempt.

Now to speed it up a bit you can use fast rolling and roll dice equal to the models wounds. so a 3 wound model would roll his saves/LOS 3 at a time.

so yes you can alternate between making a save, then LOS, then make a save, then LOS until the wound pool is empty. or just keep rolling saves til the model is down to 1 wound, then try to LOS the rest of the wounds.

 
   
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You also can't fast-roll more LoS! attempts than you have available wounds to soak them. So if you have a Tyranid Prime in a squad with 3 termagants, and 7 wounds allocated to the Prime, you could only LoS! the first 3 wounds allocated to the Prime, then see how many 'gants survive before the next batch.

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Pet peeve: "LoS" is specific to Line of Sight. The "o" is lowercase because it's the minor word "of". Look Out Sir! should be "LOS" or preferably "LOS!".
   
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I agree completely with Pyrian's previous post, and I always try to type these two distinctly.
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Should be possible, there is distinction with capitals. Example: to / TO
However I would think it's a bad idea simply because of the number of people who do term it "wrong", which will only help to confuse matters. If both show up, then context should make it clear which is being referred to.

sirlynchmob's method of rolling up to the model's number of wounds, resolving those, then continuing with more batches/single rolls if the model is still alive works quite nicely.
Another way you *COULD* work it is what I do, which is to state that you're going to roll all at once but begin taking results from the left, and if the character dies you ignore the remaining rolls and treat them as normal Wounds instead.

Example - I have an IC with 2 wounds at the front of a unit that takes 8 wounds. Let's assume that both the IC and the unit have a save against the wounds.
I roll the following for LOS!:

1...2...1...5...1...1...6...3

A very unlucky roll So I resolve the first wound against the IC, let's say he fails. Next wound passed LOS!, so goes to the nearest model who passes. The third wound resolves against the IC and unluckily he fails it again. All LOS! results are discarded and the remaining dice I've scooped up tell me I have 5 ordinary saves left to make.
Once you get practiced with this method it speeds it up greatly, but it DOES take a bit of practice and you have to agree it with your opponent first, since although accurate it has absolutely *NO* basis in rules.

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 Super Ready wrote:
1...2...1...5...1...1...6...3


Huh, looks like the saves I rolled on my Seer Council in Turn 1 Shooting...

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