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Depending on your local groups leniency, the Fw raven guard character does make them troops.

muchty66 wrote:
Well that's nice do you know his name?

This guy
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/RAVEN_GUARD_SHADOW_CAPTAIN_KORVYDAE.html

Look at the rumor threads, most of the SM rules are now known.