Primarchs vs Kryptonians (Man of Steel movie)

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**Zande4**

Unless Psykers count as magic then this is going to be a slaughter...

**Zande4**

Void__Dragon wrote:
PrinceRaven wrote:

Kryptonian power levels seem to wildly vary depending on who's writing, Justice League Superman seems like such a wimp compared to comic book Superman.

I guess it is a good thing this is just Man of Steel Superman then, lol.

Comic book Superman could crush anything in the 40k universe short of arguably particularly potent telepaths, or some of the more legitimate deities such as the Chaos Gods or C'tan.

Superman from the older movies or Returns are likewise relatively closer to this level of power, with impressive feats like FTL flight or lifting a small country while suffering under the effects of Kryptonite.

Man of Steel Superman is far below this level of power though, and not sufficient to defeat a Primarch, except maybe Lorgar when he was a bitch.

Guilliman isn't really one of the more formidable Primarchs, but he did resist Angron for a time, and better than I'd expect Clark to.

Sanguinius rolls through Zod, he is not merely one of the more martially adept Primarchs, but he is also a fairly powerful psyker (IMO he takes third in terms of Primarch psychic ability, behind Magnus and Lorgar) , capable of enhancing his physical abilities mentally, telekinetically guiding a falling Battle Barge into a safe landing onto the surface of a planet, and cool stuff like that.

Horus was always one of the stronger Primarchs.

Angron friggin' crushes Nam-Ek, lol.

Pre Crisis super man is the super ridiculous "flies backwards fast enough to reverse time" what..? and "strapped a chain around 9 planets and towed them away from a dying sun". Where as the modern comic book adaption "Post Crisis" is more on par with the movie.

In a physical fight the Primarchs would be crushed utterly unless I that Psykers are the same as being magic in the DC universe which is a huge weakness for Supes without his special sauce suit.

Now Primarchs with prep is another thing considering both Batman and Lex Luthor have beaten insane overpowered comic book Supes plenty of times just by using some sort of Kryptonite device and I pretty much just imagined the Primarchs as a super version of Batman with awesome millitary prowess. Hell Predator almost killed Supes using some unnamed alien virus so it doesn't even have to be Kryptonite.

Primarchs without prep - Auto-lose
Primarchs with prep - Auto-win

**Zande4**

Void__Dragon wrote:
Nam-Ek was indeed not put out of commission by those guns, but he felt the blows.

You may be right on Faora, I can't remember exactly how the scene played out.

I think you might be exaggerating the Primarchs power a little bit they are very powerful don't get me wrong but what your'e describing makes them sound like a Dragon Ball Z character. Remember Rogal Dorn was overwhelmed by regular Marines and if I remember correctly both Horus and the Emperor have struggled in 1v1s against The Beast and Garkhul Blackfang and although they may have both been the biggest Orks in history this still is not the mountain hurling power you have described.

Also Supes falls through a mountain in that movie when learning to fly and does not have a scratch on him.

A Primarch is to a Space Marine what a Space Marine is to a Guardsmen. Superman is on a whole different level.

But as I said with prep the Primarchs can win quite easily not only against the Man of Steel Supes but probablyt Post-Crisis as well as beings less intelligent and less powerful such as Lex Luxthor, Batman, Predator (yes the one from the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie) have all done or at least come close to barring plot armour.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Predator
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gharkul_Blackfang#.UhNWSZIwerg
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Beast#.UhNWkZIwerg