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Do you add the +1 strength from the exarch power stalker before or after doubling effect from the scorpion exarch's weapon scorpion claw. Is his strength while wielding the claw (3+1)x2=8 or (3x2)+1=7?

Multiple Modifiers, page 2.

Ah. Thank you

For some strange reason they decided that GK should be excluded from this rule with their Hammerhand.

 Vombat wrote:
For some strange reason they decided that GK should be excluded from this rule with their Hammerhand.

Not strange, as GK have a lack of melta in GK units. This makes our hammers function as anti vehicle weaponry

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Vombat wrote:
For some strange reason they decided that GK should be excluded from this rule with their Hammerhand.

Not strange, as GK have a lack of melta in GK units. This makes our hammers function as anti vehicle weaponry

Having played a lot against Coteaz and his Hentchmen army, I've never seen so many long range, cheap melta guns in an army in all my days!

I meant "Grey Knight" units, as in units with Knights of Grey in them. Henchmen arent GKs, just hangers-on

Long range? With the monkey upgrade?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
I meant "Grey Knight" units, as in units with Knights of Grey in them. Henchmen arent GKs, just hangers-on

Long range? With the monkey upgrade?

Yep.
I truely hate the Hentchmen army, would much rather face standard Grey Knights.

Stalker isn't the power that adds +1 Strength, that would be Crushing Blow. Stalker is the one where you re-roll wounds in a challenge.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

 Vombat wrote:
For some strange reason they decided that GK should be excluded from this rule with their Hammerhand.

Not strange, as GK have a lack of melta in GK units. This makes our hammers function as anti vehicle weaponry

Orks also lack melta in their units and we still have to multiply first and then add furious charge

Yes, because you didnt get a special Psychic Power which can kill your nob, to get that bonus +1S.....

Still not an argument for having one single power being a special flower just because.
While personally couldn't care less balance-wise, I think it's bad rules design to break consistency for this. A better way to word it would have been to add a line reading "This bonus is doubled for models attacking with a nemesis hammer (whatever the correct name is)" or similar.

It is actually, as it has a downside that FC doesnt have.

Upside: adds before doubling
Downside: can kill your sarge

You missed my point. I'm not against the hammer getting S10. I just think the rule is written terribly, and that it shouldn't be an exception to a basic rule if it doesn't need to. Without the current Hammerhand wording, there would be no question about adding or doubling first, as doubling would alsways come first.

Except it isnt written terribly, it explicitly overrides the BRB rule,which is itself explicitly written. There were questions BEFORE hhand came about as regards powerfists and FC - since the ork book came out, if not before.

Again, there is no need to override that rule, and for that reason, it shouldn't be done.

Having an exception to every single rule written ever is not contributing to streamlining the rules, it just makes you wonder whether your current unit is following the rules or has another one of those exceptions.

Except your premise - that HHand caused confusion on multiplying and addition - is wrong. Confusion was already caused by people failing to read the rulebook, or understand basic maths.

Who said they were contributing to streamling rules, or that your hyperbole (every single rule ever written?) has much use...