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I currently dont own a warhammer army but im strongly considering picking up an eldar army.
I havent played them before but I love the models and the fluff of the Eldar. Ive played Space
Marines, CSM, Tyranid, Tau, Space wolves, and a hand full of other armies that my friends
have let me use but never played Eldar. My big question here really is are they a competitive
army firstly and secondly which would be better to build an army based on the tanks and jet
bikes or based around the big mech walker things? Just curious as to which would be better.
As soon as i get some advice i'll build a proposed list of 2000 points and let you guys correct me.

They can be very competitive, however they are an army that does best when they are being run by someone that knows what they are doing with them. You may have some growing pains as you learn to not lose your units to random bolter fire.

The eldar army is more of a scalpel vs a hammer, fast moving, hard hitting units I think are the way to go, I like a few wave serpents, jetbikes grav tank heavy supports etc, you can play both ways, but personally I think jetbikes and tanks are the way to go. Plus the wraith knight is $150

Eldar are one of the top tier armies right now. Jet bikes are some of the best troops. Wave serpent spam is very good as well. The war walkers are one of the best picks in the heavy class. So, you've picked out some of the units. They're all faster than a footslogging army so you have some consistency there. You could either narrow down what you want to do with the army, or stick to these three and see what you like. All depends on what points level you’re playing at and what units you want to see. Maybe something like this at 2000 points:

HQ = 230
Farseer, jetbike, singing spear (warlord)
2X Warlock, jetbike, singing spear (one with each Windrider squad)

Troops = 1274
Dire AvengerX5 Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Dire AvengerX5 Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
WraithguardX5 Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
WraithguardX5 Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
WindriderX6, SCX2
WindriderX6, SCX2

Heavy = 490
Fire Prism, HF
Fire Prism, HF
War Walker X3, with BL/BL
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1994

It’s a bit thin on AA, but the 4 wave serpents do pretty well in that role with the set up listed above.

Good luck, and welcome to the Craftworlds!

i was looking at possibly getting this to start with

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440172a&prodId=prod2100002a

1 Autarch on Jetbike;
2 Vyper Jetbikes;
2 Windrider Jetbike Squadrons;
1 Eldar Jetbike;
1 Eldar Falcon; and 1 Eldar Fire Prism.

Just out curiosity do you think that would be a good start


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that box set together with the battle force would give me a pretty good mix of units i think

Just a note that on wolf gangs list the wraith guard would be elites and not troops unless you drop the warlocks and take a spirit seer. I am wraith heavy, but I do lack some mobility relying on the iyanden primary psychic power to give them battle focus. But the box sets look cool.

GW's "packs" rarely save you any money, even if you use everything from them.

The autarch is OK, but not really that amazing in a serpent/jetbike list, the falcon is lack luster and the vypers are not a good choice.

I would focus on wave serpents, fire prisms, jetbikes, warp spiders min squads of dire avengers in wave serpents and maybe some war walkers.

OK so based of what ive been given so far this is a quick 2000 Pt list i came up with

HQ

Farseer on Jetbike with Shining Spear and Spirit Stone
2x Warlocks with Jetbike and Shining Spear

Elite
2x Unit of wraithblades in waveserpent

Troop
2x unit of dire avengers in waveserpent
4x unit of 5 eldar jetbikes

Fast attack
2x Unit of warp spiders

Heavy Support
2x Unit of wraith lords

in army builder that came out to 1975

If you can take wraithguard instead of wraithblades do it cause you cant assault after the wraithblades have got out of the serpent.

I usually end up seeing 2x guardian squads in serpents, seer council, a few units of 5 jetbikes, a prism or 2. Its a fun little list, can look beautiful, and does pretty damn well. -Feasible

There is no point in taking 5 man jetbike units. Take 6 men and take them with 2 cannons. I also would say Wraithguard over Wraithblades in most cases. especially since you're lacking Fire Dragons.

Forgot about cannons, i was just thinking about leadership.

Eldar are amazing wave serpents are so awesome. Agree... Don't buy the pack Siam Han, you save amlos t nothing.... And if you don't use even one model your wasting money. Better to just buy each model your going to use.

Yeah don't buy the Saim-Hann 1 click-collection. As thats all it is. A single click to purchase those products. It doesn't save any money. Its just a faster way than clicking 'add to basket' on each purchase. Buying them all individually would cost the same. So I would get a final army list that you wish to build up to and then buy the models.

Look for a FLGS that you can support especially if you're going to be playing there. If not and you're playing at your house or a friends house then, buy from online retailers. It will save you a lot of cash than buying direct from GW.

wraith lords are a little out of place I would change them to war walkers or fire prisms, I like prisms better as they provide way more utility than war walkers do.

I would change one squad of blades to guard with d-scythes and one squad of guard into another squad of dire avengers in serpent, use the spare points to add to the seer council warlocks.

4 squads of min size jetbikes is a little overkill, 2 or 3 I think is better balanced. There is no point taking 5 guardian jetbikes in a squad, you take 3 6 or 9, i lean towards 3 because they take up less space on the table and are more maneuverable.

How many guys are in each warp spider squad?

First off. Your points are off. You're at 1980. Second, what is the spirit stone for the farseer? This doesn't exist in the dex. If you're talking about the spirit stone of Anath'lan, then you're WAY over your points.

Looks like a pretty good start, although you should throw halo fields on the serpents and probably scatter lasers too. They're good for TLing the serpent shield shot.

I disagree about vypers. They're good with halo fields. They are cheap heavy weapons with decent survivability, although they're not for everyone.

I agree with removing at least one wraithblade squad for d-scythe wraithguard.

I feel like this is two or three separate lists in one. It still might work though.

I think you should switch out the two wraith lords for 4 war walkers. They'll do the same thing with 4 times the shots.

You're going to have to TL the spiders to take down fliers, but it does work very well. With that said, you should try 10 spiders each squad. More spiders is better. An exarch can't hurt either.

Khaine's Wrath wrote:
Just a note that on wolf gangs list the wraith guard would be elites and not troops unless you drop the warlocks and take a spirit seer.

Bah! I knew I forgetting something. Yes, my list above is missing a spiritseer. That's what I get for not pulling out my list and doing it off the cuff!

 Bladefreak wrote:
OK so based of what ive been given so far this is a quick 2000 Pt list i came up with
HQ
Farseer on Jetbike with Shining Spear and Spirit Stone
2x Warlocks with Jetbike and Shining Spear

Jetseers and Jetlocks. Can't go wrong here. If you can get one lock per windrider squadron, then you'll want to do so.

 Bladefreak wrote:

Elite
2x Unit of wraithblades in waveserpent

As pointed out by others the main drawback here is that wraithblades can't assault out of a waveserpent. So they end up sitting around getting shot at before they get to join the fray. This is why you'll usually see wraithguard or scythguard in serpents.

 Bladefreak wrote:

Troop
2x unit of dire avengers in waveserpent

Cheapest way to get serpents on the board...MSU of 5 man avenger squads. SL is must for serpents, and holofields are pretty obligatory too for survivability. SC on the chin as much as possible as points allow.

 Bladefreak wrote:

4x unit of 5 eldar jetbikes

3 bikes are for reserves then coming out late to grab objectives. If using 3 man squads do not waist points on a warlock.
6 or 9 man squads want max number of cannons. Warlocks fairly obligatory for survivability, singing spears optional as points allow.

I'd spread out the bikes to make 3X unit of 6, and then use the extra points to get a spiritseer in order to make the wraithguard troops/scoring.

 Bladefreak wrote:

Fast attack
2x Unit of warp spiders

5 man spiders units are a solid choice.

 Bladefreak wrote:

Heavy Support
2x Unit of wraith lords

These seem out of place in this army to me since they're footslogging. I'd agree with others to go with fire prisms or War Walkers in this list.


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Your list is shaping up though! Looking good.