2000pt Chaos Marine List

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**PredaKhaine**

Firstly, here is the list so far.

Abaddon

Lord
Power Weapon
Power Fist
Mark of Slaanesh
Sigil Of Corruption
Veterans of the Long War

6 Noise marines
2 Sonic Blasters
Blastmaster
Doom Siren

6 Noise Marines
Doom Siren
2 Sonic Blasters
Blastmaster

Heldrake
Baleflamer

Dreadnought
Multi-melta
Power Scourge

10 Terminators
2 Reaper cannons
2 Combi-Meltas
Mark Of Slaanesh
Icon Of Excess

10 Chosen
Plasma Gun
Melta Gun
Power Fist
Combi-Flamer
Powersword (champion)
Mark Of Slaanesh
Icon of Excess

3 Obliterators

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1 last thing - can anyone think of any good names for a couple of Night Lord...Lords?

**PredaKhaine**

Which list is better?
Khorne Chaos

Kharn the Betrayer

Chaos Lord
Gift of Mutation
Mark of Khorne
Axe of Blind Fury
Juggernought of Khorne
Sigil of Corruption
Plasma Pistol

Chaos Space Marines x 10
Power Weapon
Plasma pistol
Missile Launcher
Veterans of the Long War
Gift Of Mutation

Rhino
Dirge Caster
Combi-Bolter
Havoc Launcher

Khorne Berzerkers x 12
Gift of Mutation
Chainaxe
Melta Bombs
Icon of Wrath
Veterans of the Long War

Chaos Bikes x 4 (bodyguard for the juggerlord)
Melta Gun
Gift of Mutation
Mark of Khorne
Veterans of the Long War
Icon of Wrath

Chaos Predator
Twin Linked Lascannon
Lascannons
Dirge caster

Maulerfiend
Lasher Tendrils

Allies
BloodThirster
Greater Reward
Greater Reward

Bloodletters x 10

Daemon Prince
Deamon of Khorne
Demonic Flight
Warp Forged Armour
Greater Reward
Greater Reward

**mercer**

Neither lists are that good I am afriad. Both of them are all over the place i.e Abaddon without Chosen as troops, random units without support, saturation or redundancy and your second list isn't written properly.

Here's a World Eaters list you might be interested in. It uses allies too like yours.

http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2013/08/army-lists-chaos-space-marines-world.html

**PredaKhaine**

I can't see that link...workblocked atm

The first list has Abaddon and a squad of chosen as troops, as well as the 2 noise marine squads made troops by the Lord. The chosen are armed badly, but they look good

The second list
Kharn goes with the berzerkers (its an indulgence) the Juggerlord goes with the bikes, the demon prince and the bloodthirster start hidden and fly up while the maulerfiend provides more target saturation. The chaos marines stay at the back with the rhino and the predator. Turn 2 has been fun in my games so far

Why is it written incorrectly?
Could you give me some reasons as to why you think they are bad - I'd like a little more detail please

**mercer**

Here is the list:

Chaos Space Marines w/ Chaos Daemon allies 'World Eaters' - 2,000 points

HQ

Chaos Lord - lightning claw, sigil of corruption, juggernaut of khorne, burning brand of skalathrax & mark of khorne
Bloodthirster - exalted reward

Troops

10 x Khorne Berzerkers - Champion w/ power fist
10 x Khorne Berzerkers - Champion w/ power fist
10 x Bloodletters of Khorne

Fast Attack

Heldrake - baleflamer
5 x Chaos Spawn
10 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne

Heavy Support

Chaos Land Raider - dirge caster & extra armour
Chaos Land Raider - dirge caster & extra armour

Total: 2,010

Ok, well Abaddon doesn't justify a single Chosen unit as troops.

Your second list is written uncorrectly because it doesn't say how many models are in the units. How many CSM is there? 10? 15? 20?

**PredaKhaine**

Thanks

Why would the juggerlord in that list choose the burning brand over the axe of blind fury?

Would the burning brand not be better on a dp to be a mini heldrake?

I've edited the second list

**mercer**

The brand is just too awesome not to have. It allows you to soften up enemy units before charging.

Why would you pay more for a Brand Prince when the Heldrake is cheaper and superior in flamer death?

**PredaKhaine**

That makes more sense now, thanks

**mercer**

No worries

**Filch**

Your chosen are better off naked. A squad of 8 can put out 24 attacks b4 charge (32 after). 10 csm gets 21/31.

U can hide a pf not on a champ with chosen & termi.

However i think the khorne list is better.

**PredaKhaine**

Right, so in the first list, If I drop Abbadon and the chosen what should I take instead?

I've got pretty much 1 of everything in the codex - bar a landraider.

**Sothas**

Without the chosen/abaddon -- I'd say more helldrakes! You can never have too many. My moto is, as long as you have FoC for them, fill it out

Ok, so minus the super cheese, you could fill in with more noise marines. 3 troops is bare minimum this edition. Also the Lord needs an escort so you could throw in some cultists for him. They make a great escort. 50 points for 10 more wounds on a lord is a great deal.

Also, why is there a fist and a sword on the lord? Pull off the fist. If you absolutely have to have something that hits hard for MC or tank get melta granades. The MoS lord is there to win challenges. I6 will go before most other HQs out there. A PS is better because you kill fist.

**PredaKhaine**

The lord has power sword/fist as I've got the 'classic' metal night lord chaos lord - I'd have to hacksaw his arm off and I just can't bring myself to do it

I'll work out some more noise marines in there

cheers