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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 05:44:50
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Anyone know of any IG regiments that work with the inquisition or who regularly work with the sisters of battle? If so, where can I find info on them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 08:34:48
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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None really come to mind specifically, since Inquisitors and the Adepta Soroitas can "request" the IG to work with them if they don't want to be branded heretics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 09:51:59
Subject: Re:IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Elysian Drop Troops Detachment D-99 is a single company that serves the Inquisition. They wear this patch:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 10:30:05
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Preacher of the Emperor
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As for the Sisters, I don't think that there is and I doubt that there would be, at least not "officially". The Sisters and Imperial Guard are quite separate organisations, so it's doubtful that there's any Guard regiments or Sororitas detachments that are "attatched" together. However, it's not in inconceivable that a guard regiment and SoB detachment could regularly operate in the same area and thus end up continually fighting alongside each other, so there's nothing stopping you from fluffing such a situation yourself if you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 11:16:47
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Mighty Vampire Count
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]Your more likely to find such co-operation in a Crusade where units work together for long periods of time. Its also possible that in campaign that is going badly units are flung together for surivival.
Sisters and Stormtroopers have a very similar upbringing so they "should" work well together but they may not......
By and large the Guard have a huge respect for the Sororitas - be they front line combat troops of the Militas or the Hospitlar. For instance in the Cain novels even the most hardened veterans are in awe of them as Chosen by the Emperor, in Gunheads, they talk about the Hospitilars as Angels etc....
Forces from both organisations can and are conscripted by the Inquisiton and may serve together for periods. A Guard unit maybe posted to defend an area where the sisterhood has a interest and so they fight together to protect it. Helreach has an excellent example with the Guard, Stormtroopers, Black Templars and others all fighitn the Orks together (of course GW cocked up the Allies Matrix so the Black Templars can't do that properely but still..........  )
The veteran Valhallan 597th often operate on behalf of Inqusitor Vail.
Yet another option is to use Gaurd rules but have them as pdf - for instance on Perlia -the local PDR unit was so in awe of the local Sisters that they virtually operated under their command....
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 12:48:37
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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When a War of Faith is declared, Guard regiments, driven by the urging words of their attached Confessors, occasionally join the Frateris Militia and then often fight side by side with the Sisterhood in enforcing the crusade's goals. This is but a temporary assignment, of course.
Whereas the six Major Orders are primarily based at the Convents Sanctorum and Prioris on Terra and Ophelia VII, the numerous Minor Orders maintain smaller convents of about a hundred Sisters throughout Imperial space, and these are the ones most likely to respond to an Inquisitorial request or a localised incursion by enemy forces. If the worlds in their vicinity often find themselves under attack by alien marauders or the Ruinous Powers, it would seem likely that these Battle Sisters would see action alongside local PDF and/or Imperial Guard garrison troops from time to time. This, too, is not a permanent connection, but you could easily justify the two forces allying again and again.
Then, there is of course also the option of stretching the Decree Passive to its breaking point, such as by having the Guard regiment hail from a Shrine World and maintain a suspiciously close relationship to the local Ecclesiarchy, essentially becoming an unofficial standing army of some Cardinal. Alternatively, it might not be a Guard regiment at all, but merely a very, very well equipped unit of Frateris Militia, financed by the Church Militant and equipped with military-grade weaponry procured from nearby manufactoriums or donated by faithful nobles hoping to purchase redemption from their sins.
This is somewhat thin ice, as the Sisters of Battle also police the Ecclesiarchy and work closely with the Ordo Hereticus in curbing the influence of the powerful clergy, but who says that such an approach may not work - at least for a couple years or decades?
[edit] some fluff from GW's Armageddon website
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 13:37:56
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Thanks - interesting link  especially when you read the approaches and effect on fellow warriors of the Imperium of the two different Orders:
Order of our Martyred Lady: Their unshakeable determination spreads to any force they fight alongside and there have been many Imperial Guard officers who, inspired by the Sisters' presence, have also united behind the Order's vow
Order of the Shroud: Though Imperial commanders often view allied squads from the Order with some suspicion in between battles, the Sisters have already proved to be staunch defenders against the invading Orks....... The effect upon the general morale of any fighting arm during their investigations almost always depreciates as their purges continue.
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 13:42:34
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Yes, the Argent Shroud seems to have a reputation there. They're nice to have around when they have a common enemy to fight, but not so nice when the Sisters get bored and start questioning your faithfulness and your commitment to the cause. Or your genetical purity, for that matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 14:02:18
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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The IG and Inquisition work on very different scales. Thats not to say that an Inquisitor cannot have need to "ask" for that level of force, but they would not have a guard regiment working "for" them. They may request the help of a guard regiment (and anyone declining would be stupid to do so) but where the IG work in large numbers against big foes the Inquisition work in tiny numbers against high value targets.
For what they do need 99% of the time a squad or two of storm troopers will do the job. Or if needs be a few death watch or Gray Knights. The scalpel accurate hit and run is much more in keeping with the aims and tactics of the Inquisition than the long hammer blow of the IG. However, that is not to say that there are not Inquisitors with different tactics. They are an odd bunch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/20 14:14:52
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Mighty Vampire Count
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There are Lord Inquisitors in particular who are very public faces of the Inquisiton and do have huge forces at their command. Coreaz does - "He sought an army of his own, ever at his beck and call"
Karamazi "is as likely to be found at the head of a Crusading army".
Agreed others are more discrete but some choose to be the hammer on the anvil. Valeria sent several regiments against the Necrons to recover tech.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 16:07:25
Subject: IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Steve steveson wrote:The IG and Inquisition work on very different scales. Thats not to say that an Inquisitor cannot have need to "ask" for that level of force, but they would not have a guard regiment working "for" them. They may request the help of a guard regiment (and anyone declining would be stupid to do so) but where the IG work in large numbers against big foes the Inquisition work in tiny numbers against high value targets.
That's not entirely accurate. During the Siege of Vraks for example the the entire Krieg 88th Siege Army (Lexicanum erroneously says Regiment - it was actually a Army of 30-odd Regiments) was placed under formal control of the Inquisitor Lord Rex of the Ordo Malleus. If memory serves in the novel Draco (tho I'd not read it since it was titled Inquisitor) a similar planet-spanning conflict (against a Genestealer Cult) was prosecuted under the full control of an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
Likewise the entire Badab War was prosecuted under the authority of Inquistor-Legate Frain (altho even the loyalist marines kept themselves to themselves).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:03:43
Subject: Re:IG inquisition regiments/ IG regiments with Sisters of battle
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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I think Steve steveson was talking about Guard regiments attached to an Inquisitor permanently rather than for a single campaign. The latter has many examples throughout the fluff regardless of the source origin. For example, this is from Apocalypse:
That being said, I would not be averse to the idea that some influential Inquisitors may retain regiments permanently. Who's going to stop them, save perhaps another Inquisitor? Most of them seem to prefer small teams, booking temporary passage on Black Ships or Naval vessels and only requisitioning larger assets when the situation warrants it, but I have no problem imagining that some very militant Inquisitors would retain their own military formations, going from world to world to purge it in flames. The old Inquisition War novels about Jaq Draco had one such Inquisitor, and Jaq basically used the chaos that guy's army caused as a smokescreen for his own operations. As much as I caution against Black Library fluff, I see nothing about that incident that would not fit in with studio material.
Indeed, the primary reason for why the Inquisition retains the Grey Knights and the Deathwatch is so that they always have an elite force on standby that can be sent out with a minimum of bureaucratic fuss.
"It is clear then that wherever possible it is best if the Inquisition can deal with a threat using its own resources, avoiding the dangerous entanglements that may result from involving other agencies and military forces. It is for this reason that the Inquisition maintains its own fighting formations, foremost amongst them being the Kill-teams of the Deathwatch Space Marines and the daemon-hunting Grey Knights Space Marines."
- GW Inquisitor RPG : Thorian Handbook
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