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Hullo, 40k noob (well, haven't played for nearly 20 years) looking for some feedback on my Night Lords list.

This is just for fun, I will probably only be playing against 1 person, he is building a Marine list.

In particular I'm looking for feedback on anything illegal, wildly stupid, mixed weapons, units not fit for purpose, wrong marks or icons etc.


HQ
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Huron Blackheart
160 points

Chaos Lord 147
terminator armour
2x lightning claw
melta bombs
mark of slaneesh
147 points


Elites
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Terminators (5) - Deep strike with Lord
2x power fist
1x chain fist
1x combi melta
1x combi flamer
1x reaper autocannon
218 points

Possessed (8)
208 points

Helbrute
reaper autocannon
105 points


Troops
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Noise Marines (10) - Backfield shooty
1x plasmagun
1x blastmaster
icon of excess
champ with power sword, doom siren, melta bombs
290 points

Chaos Marines (10)
close combat weapons
1x flamer
1x heavy bolter
icon of vengeance
champ with power fist, melta bombs
rhino with combi-flamer, havoc launcher
287 points

Chaos Marines (10) - Infiltrate with Huron
close combat weapons
2x melta
icon of vengeance
champ with power fist, melta bombs
235 points

Chaos Marines (10) - Infiltrate with Huron (hopefully), otherwise shooty
close combat weapons
2x plasmagun 30
champ with power sword, melta bombs
210 points


Heavy
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Predator
Lascannons turret, lascannon sponsons
140 points


2000 points exactly, but no fast attack! Will probably drop some marines for a Heldrake and/or some Raptors in the future (they're Night Lords after all).

Feedback gratefully received!

I'll really have to read Huron's rules. I run a typical Lord with Jump Pack with the MURDER SWORD.

My only real critique is why on earth do you not have Raptors? That's like running Alpha Legion without Cultists.

Theres close to 30 in my 1850 list.

Yeah I will probably drop the 4th CSM squad to take some raptors once I get a chance to pick some up. I also keep reading that at least 1 heldrake is considered an auto-include.

Am I wasting points on icons? I've spent 105 points on 3 icons here, am now thinking if they can just be sniped away I'd be better using those points towards the above?

Slaanesh icons are the only ones i'd be willing to take mainly becaues the FNP also applies to the icon holder. The IoV are useless. They'll get sniped.

For a themed army, I'd throw in more raptors even though i hate raptors.

Change the power fists to power swords. You're already slaanesh, so the powersword will help you win those much needed challenges.

Possessed? Might as well remove those from the dex. They've been bad for so long.

Termies aren't termicide, and not in a land raider. Be prepared for them to die a horrible bloody death before they get to assault.

Preds are good, but take off the TL LC turret. Too many points for minimal gain.

Thanks Sothas, gives me some stuff to think about.

What is termicide? Min unit with combi-meltas?

I would drop the Possessed, and take the raptors (at least the raptors can do things). Make use of Huron's infiltrate, and stuff a great big gob of terrifying terminators up front (give the infiltrate rule to the lord so he joins the terminators and lets them infiltrate [infiltrate only requires 1 model, and it would need to be the IC in order to work]).

On the 1st CSM I drop the HB or the CCW. If they all have CCW then they will be moving forward and be snap firing the HB.

agreed dropped possessed for raptors. Seen it work well with a similar list

termicide = 3 man combi plas/melta.

I didn't even see the HB. I wish they were good, I guess is some cases they can be, epecially with all the massed troops.

CCWs are overpriced. Try them out though, if you like them then awesome. Like the dude said though, drop the HB if you're keeping the CCWs.

Be warned, CSM aren't all that great. They lose challenges and then get wiped when they lose combat. Because of how expensive they are, this makes them a liability.

Thanks for the input guys.

At this point I'm somewhat restricted by the models I have. I did just pick up 5 raptors though, which I will add to if possible.

A second stab at the list. Haven't been able to incorporate all of the suggestions due to WYSIWYG;


HQ
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Huron Blackheart
160 points

Chaos Lord
terminator armour
2x lightning claw
melta bombs
votlw
mark of slaneesh
sigil of corruption
177 points


Elites
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Terminators (5) - Infiltrate with Lord
2x power fist
1x chain fist
1x combi melta
1x combi flamer
1x reaper autocannon
218 points

Helbrute
reaper autocannon
105 points


Troops
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Noise Marines (10)
1x sonic blaster
1x blastmaster
icon of excess
champ with power sword, doom siren, melta bombs
278 points

Chaos Marines (10)
close combat weapons
2x melta
mark of slaneesh
icon of excess
champ with power fist, melta bombs
rhino with havoc launcher
307 points

Chaos Marines (10)
close combat weapons
2x plasmagun
mark of slaneesh
icon of excess
champ with lightning claw, melta bombs
260 points

Chaos Marines (10)
1x plasmagun
1x heavy bolter
mark of slaneesh
champ with power sword, melta bombs
205 points


Fast
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Raptors (5)
1x melta
mark of slaneesh
champ with 2x lclaw, melta bombs
150 points


Heavy
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Predator
Lascannons turret, lascannon sponsons
140 points


2000 points

Putting the sigil of corruption on a termi lord isn't really worth the points you pay because the MoT does the same thing for less. Apart from that I like it and it would be fun to play with.

Fair point, I could move the noise marines to elite now that I've dropped the possessed.