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List 1
Hq
2 Farseer -230
-bikes

Troops
2x10 guardians 220
- BL in each
2x3 Jetbikes -122
-Cannon in each
10 Dire avengers -130

Fast
2x10 warp spiders - 400
-2 exarch

Heavy
2 wraithknight - 480
-dual cannon

3 support platforms -165
- d-cannons

Fort.
ADL -100
-Quad gun

List 2
Hq
2 Farseer -230
-bikes

Troops
2x10 guardians 490
- BL in each
-2 wave serpents -
-scatter lasers on both
-Holo fields on both
-under slung cannon on both.
2x3 Jetbikes -122
-Cannon in each
10 Dire avengers -130

Fast
8 warp spiders - 152

Heavy
2 Wraith knights -480
-dual cannon

3 support platforms -165
-d cannons

Fort.
ADL -100
-quad gun
C&C

2 is better, neither are great.

D cannons range is too short, i personally dont like wraith knights, especially not stock ones. your farseers dont have a lot they can do, seems like they are just sitting around.

List 2 is probably more competitive

The jetbike squads need to be reserved to be competitive, 3 man cannon and attached farseer are juicy targets for almost anything.

So my suggestion is drop the cannons reserve the bikes, and find a different way to cover your farseers ie mantle on bike or walking in a squad

Might want to look at shadow weavers instead of d cannons, either way attach a warlock for conceal 2+ cover save behind an aegis

Cannons on serpents are largely a waste unless your going to charge them towards the enemy


Honestly the lists kind of look like your trying to set up an eldar gun line with footdar. If that is the case your going to have to have alot more firepower because as of right now your short range avengers and guardians are just going to be outranged by any other gun line. 4 shots from wraithknights and 2 serpents isn't enough firepower to kill your opponent

I well I would attach the farseers to the spiders and to the artillery. If I detach the Farseer move the spiders and then re attach then the tactic for that works out. I love shadow weavers, but they don't seem to have the umpf needed. I am trying to do the footdar list, but I like the waveserpents. Not sure how effective they will be though. I'm willing to drop them if there is a good suggestion.