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Okay guys this is an army I made for my first game ever in 40k. It's 500pts and I want to see if you can do anything about it.

HQ:
Big mek:65pts
Burna, bosspole and 'eavy armour

Heavy support:
Big gunz:120pts
2 units of 3 kannons

Elite:
Burna boyz:150pts
10 burna boyz in 1 unit

Troops:
Ork boyz:162pts
1 unit of 12 boyz with nob, powerklaw and bosspole. They will go in a trukk with grot riggers and armour plates

This is it, tell me what strengths and weaknesses this army has and I can fix it.

Burnas on foot will get shot to pieces most likely. Lootas cost just as much and will give you some firepower. The big mek will probably die on foot too, especially without a KFF or invul save.

Could be a fun list still, just give it a go and see what works and what doesn't. What are you up against?

Just remember BOYZ before TOYS....

 centuryslayer wrote:
Burnas on foot will get shot to pieces most likely. Lootas cost just as much and will give you some firepower. The big mek will probably die on foot too, especially without a KFF or invul save.

Could be a fun list still, just give it a go and see what works and what doesn't. What are you up against?

I am up against chaos daemons. I though the KFF was too expensive so I went with some cheaper things.

ight first things first.....Welcome to dakka
i see the mek is rather useless in this situation. no need for a KFF cus demons have limited shooting.
id drop the mek all the way. and drop the grot riggers and armour plates on the trukk. those are rather useless in 6th ed. your better just zoomin up 24" and letting it die (its the trukks job)
kill the pole on a nob and a boy in that squad and go for a warboss with a pk/bp it will be more useful for your points.
flip the burnas into lootas. as you will not be able to get there untill turn3-4. split the lootas into 2 squads of 5 for max firepower and split fire.
since ur vs demons these changes will help you alot.
in this situation your 36" fire power will help as most deamons are all about assult. if he has a DP with wings you might be in trubs but he cost to much and just focus fire him he will die sooner or later.
and is this a reduced force org game? you only have 1 troop lol.

 Orkimedezz wrote:
ight first things first.....Welcome to dakka
i see the mek is rather useless in this situation. no need for a KFF cus demons have limited shooting.
id drop the mek all the way. and drop the grot riggers and armour plates on the trukk. those are rather useless in 6th ed. your better just zoomin up 24" and letting it die (its the trukks job)
kill the pole on a nob and a boy in that squad and go for a warboss with a pk/bp it will be more useful for your points.
flip the burnas into lootas. as you will not be able to get there untill turn3-4. split the lootas into 2 squads of 5 for max firepower and split fire.
since ur vs demons these changes will help you alot.
in this situation your 36" fire power will help as most deamons are all about assult. if he has a DP with wings you might be in trubs but he cost to much and just focus fire him he will die sooner or later.
and is this a reduced force org game? you only have 1 troop lol.

I will try it in the game. Btw thx for the tactics! Do I keep the big gunz?

I agree with everything that orkimedezz said, and on top of that i'd add that you need more boyz (and i am not talking about spamming boyz, it's just that they are the core unit of the orks, and 12 cant fight most things solo)
I'd drop the burnas and one squad of the big guns for a 5man team of lootas and add another trukk of boyz, and probably go for a warboss instead of a big mek
this will give you a gunline of lootas and kannons in the back and 2 trukks full of boyz (and the warboss) charging forward. This at 500 points should be great

 Delevarius wrote:
I agree with everything that orkimedezz said, and on top of that i'd add that you need more boyz (and i am not talking about spamming boyz, it's just that they are the core unit of the orks, and 12 cant fight most things solo)
I'd drop the burnas and one squad of the big guns for a 5man team of lootas and add another trukk of boyz, and probably go for a warboss instead of a big mek
this will give you a gunline of lootas and kannons in the back and 2 trukks full of boyz (and the warboss) charging forward. This at 500 points should be great

hmhmhm i like the idea of dropping stuff for boyz. but we are talking demons here. no fire power all around assault army. 12boyz cant beat them at there own game. better to stay all the way back and fire at them and have the boyz lock a MC up.

 Orkimedezz wrote:

 Delevarius wrote:
I agree with everything that orkimedezz said, and on top of that i'd add that you need more boyz (and i am not talking about spamming boyz, it's just that they are the core unit of the orks, and 12 cant fight most things solo)
I'd drop the burnas and one squad of the big guns for a 5man team of lootas and add another trukk of boyz, and probably go for a warboss instead of a big mek
this will give you a gunline of lootas and kannons in the back and 2 trukks full of boyz (and the warboss) charging forward. This at 500 points should be great

hmhmhm i like the idea of dropping stuff for boyz. but we are talking demons here. no fire power all around assault army. 12boyz cant beat them at there own game. better to stay all the way back and fire at them and have the boyz lock a MC up.

well i dont have experience playing against demons, but from what you are saying, I guess he should drop the trukk and go for 2 squads of shootaboyz and just stay back, dakka, and wait for the enemy to come softer before entering a brawl
2 squads of 20 shoota boyz, 5 lootas and a kannon squad followed by a warboss should do the trick, though he will have to cut the powerclaws on the nobs in the shoota squads so he can deck out the boss

 Delevarius wrote:

 Orkimedezz wrote:

 Delevarius wrote:
I agree with everything that orkimedezz said, and on top of that i'd add that you need more boyz (and i am not talking about spamming boyz, it's just that they are the core unit of the orks, and 12 cant fight most things solo)
I'd drop the burnas and one squad of the big guns for a 5man team of lootas and add another trukk of boyz, and probably go for a warboss instead of a big mek
this will give you a gunline of lootas and kannons in the back and 2 trukks full of boyz (and the warboss) charging forward. This at 500 points should be great

hmhmhm i like the idea of dropping stuff for boyz. but we are talking demons here. no fire power all around assault army. 12boyz cant beat them at there own game. better to stay all the way back and fire at them and have the boyz lock a MC up.

well i dont have experience playing against demons, but from what you are saying, I guess he should drop the trukk and go for 2 squads of shootaboyz and just stay back, dakka, and wait for the enemy to come softer before entering a brawl
2 squads of 20 shoota boyz, 5 lootas and a kannon squad followed by a warboss should do the trick, though he will have to cut the powerclaws on the nobs in the shoota squads so he can deck out the boss

i still think he should keep it how it is. you want the long range vs the deamons and the boyz are only 18"

Yeah but you cant hope to gun everything down before they get half way across the board, and then the boyz can start to dakka away and even maybe make a charge when the demons are widdled down to chargable numbers
i'd atleast run one squad of 30 boyz in a 500points army if I focus on the other units more, it will give the lootas and biggunz a wall of boyz infront of them so they cant be reached
biggest part is that trukks are pointless vs armies that are stronger in melee then you at full strength, since they want to come to you anyways asap

If you're Orks playing against Daemons, then you have two options: drown them in fire, or drown them in bodies. I think that the former will be more effective in your case, since daemons are likely to be more vicious than you in melee, and may be as numerous as well. I can actually see where your HQ/Elite setup might be effective, but I''d recommend two things: take the trukk for your Burnas and not your boys, and take a Force Field to help against psychic powers, since that squad will be most in danger from daemon psykers. This will pretty much hold true for whatever you choose to put your HQ unit with, so a KFF Big Mek is a pretty cheap way to protect that unit. At 500 points, I'd probably just stick him in a unit of Shoota Boyz or Lootas if you need the dakka they provide. I also don't personally like Big Gunz, and while I'm sure they offer fine fire support, I prefer Looted Wagons. A cheap Wagon can cost as little as 130 points, and still be effective.

at those points, i would go for a basic horde.. 2 troops of shootaboyz with 1 warboss and maybe some lootas.. I think it will do the job. if not, more lootas, or boyz

Well thats the thing about Orks. To be able to bring in some toyz you need to have enough boyz
and at 500 its a bit hard not to go boyz spam

OP, pick a theme and stick with it. You've got sloggers and a trukk - take all sloggers or all trukks but not both, because this game brutally punishes variety in lists.

Boyz spam is probably the way to go. Its IMO the strongest Ork build at any points value, it just gets much less unwieldy and tedious at 500pts than it is at 1850