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If one has a unit immediately behind and aegis defence line (ADL), it may still be assaulted if the enemy models get right up to the wall.

However, what if one places their ADL in an elongated and sideways "U" shape, that is, making it into a double-layer ADL, a new possibility might be there. Assaulting models cannot be adjacent to the wall that your own unit is hiding behind, and there is not enough space to place the enemy models between the two layers of the folded ADL.

The sides of this "U" shaped ADL can be protected by heavy armour, but in principle, it seems like the shooting units behind the wall are protected from a frontal assault. Is this the case?

I think you can "reach" a few inches when you assault a wall. You count as being in base to base with models within a certain range. Check it out though. I feel like I'd rule against this tactic if I were a TO just because it skews the game to have pop-up impassible terrain at will.

Friend tried to stop my nob bikers this way. Nothing says i cant sit on top of them unless the model keeps falling off...double walls let them actually sit better lol

Seen this discussed beforesomewhere, but the most convincing argument from it (I thought) was yes because it would simply result in Wobbly model syndrome as long as your dice roll was high enough to actually reach the models and not just the wall.

Try using the search function in the forum for a better explanation.

If your assault roll reaches the enemy model, you can assault. Nothing prevents a model from being "on" the wall as it is terrain.

Zagman wrote:
If your assault roll reaches the enemy model, you can assault. Nothing prevents a model from being "on" the wall as it is terrain.

Ah, I had not considered that.

I suppose the best theoretical defence line would be sharply sloped Of course, if one had two rows like I described, a previous poster's suggestion of having nob bikers straddle both lines would still be able to assault.

madric wrote:

Zagman wrote:
If your assault roll reaches the enemy model, you can assault. Nothing prevents a model from being "on" the wall as it is terrain.

Ah, I had not considered that.

I suppose the best theoretical defence line would be sharply sloped Of course, if one had two rows like I described, a previous poster's suggestion of having nob bikers straddle both lines would still be able to assault.

An Aegis Defense Line cannot be used to stop on assault. Modeling with a severe slope is Modeling for Advantage, and either way they can DT over it anyway with ease. It is terrain and not impassible.

An Aegis Defense Line cannot be used to stop on assault. Modeling with a severe slope is Modeling for Advantage, and either way they can DT over it anyway with ease. It is terrain and not impassible.

The sloped ADL was just a gag at the nature of the rules, I know it would be modelling for advantage. However, the ADL lines, as built, may actually prevent single models, such as Terminators or Ork Boyz, from assaulting because they will not be able to stand up straight on top of the double layered ADL. Granted you only get half the total length when you fold your ADL in half like this, but it may be worth it. (Assuming it's rule-legal). A previous poster had stated that one gets to "reach" several inches when against a wall, so this may not be the case.

As far as difficult terrain is concerned, the notion was to fill up the space behind the ADL with infantry, such that the assaulting unit cannot get on your side of the wall without having to pass through one of your models.